How strong is Oozaru Gohan?

[Power Level Guy]

OK, how's this?
Weighted Krillin - 1,400
Weightless Krillin - 1,575
Gohan - 1,650

That should be fine.

I like to make Gohan a bit stronger than Krillen. It is Krillen who is completely out of breath facing Gohan in the image training. Krillen pulled out all the stops to fight Gohan utilizing all of his techniques, that sounds like he's on the backfoot to me. He's probably two steps behind imo.

Their post-Guru power-up needs to be accounted for as well. Where do you have them at?

 

[Hector]

That should be fine.

I like to make Gohan a bit stronger than Krillen. It is Krillen who is completely out of breath facing Gohan in the image training. Krillen pulled out all the stops to fight Gohan utilizing all of his techniques, that sounds like he's on the backfoot to me. He's probably two steps behind imo.

Their post-Guru power-up needs to be accounted for as well. Where do you have them at?

So far I had Krillin at 10.5k and Gohan at 12k.

 

[Power Level Guy]

So far I had Krillin at 10.5k and Gohan at 12k.

Ok, at least you are consistent. How strong is Enraged Gohan versus Reecome?

 

[Hector]

That should be fine.

I like to make Gohan a bit stronger than Krillen. It is Krillen who is completely out of breath facing Gohan in the image training. Krillen pulled out all the stops to fight Gohan utilizing all of his techniques, that sounds like he's on the backfoot to me. He's probably two steps behind imo.

Their post-Guru power-up needs to be accounted for as well. Where do you have them at?

On second thought, why can't Krillin have used his weighted power in the image training? He was wearing his weighted shirt if I recall correctly. And if weights suppress the usage of ki, I don't see how he could unleash his unweighted power in the image training.

Ok, at least you are consistent. How strong is Enraged Gohan versus Reecome?

24k?

 

[Power Level Guy]

On second thought, why can't Krillin have used his weighted power in the image training? He was wearing his weighted shirt if I recall correctly. And if weights suppress the usage of ki, I don't see how he could unleash his unweighted power in the image training.

He's not.

24k?

He's only stated to be over 20,000, you'll have to bring that number way down.

 

[Hector]

He's not.

He's not what? He's not wearing his shirt?

He's only stated to be over 20,000, you'll have to bring that number way down.

I know, but I want a consistent multiplier for Gohan's rage.

 

[Power Level Guy]

He's not what? He's not wearing his shirt?

He's wearing regular gear IIRC.

I know, but I want a consistent multiplier for Gohan's rage.

Your rage boost is too high. Gohan is 1,500 in the Saiyan Saga, where do you have him at?

 

[Hector]

He's wearing regular gear IIRC.


Your rage boost is too high. Gohan is 1,500 in the Saiyan Saga, where do you have him at?

In the Saiyan Saga, I imagined something like...
-normal power: 1,200
-enraged power: 2,400
-massenko: 2,800

 

[Power Level Guy]

-normal power: 1,200
-enraged power: 2,400
-massenko: 2,800

Vegeta should be able to easily beat 3 12,000 Oozarus. Gohan's base power must be stronger than 1,200.

 

[Hector]

Vegeta should be able to easily beat 3 12,000 Oozarus.

So what?

 

[Power Level Guy]

So what?

Vegeta isn't sure if he can beat 2 Oozarus.

Which means Oozaru Gohan > 12,000.

 

[Hector]

Vegeta isn't sure if he can beat 2 Oozarus.

Which means Oozaru Gohan > 12,000.

Well, we established in the past that 1.33x is the gap in which two weaker power levels are just enough to beat a stronger one (unless you changed your mind about that). So Oozaru Gohan must be between 12,000 and 13,500. I'll figure it out tomorrow.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Well, we established in the past that 1.33x is the gap in which two weaker power levels are just enough to beat a stronger one (unless you changed your mind about that). So Oozaru Gohan must be between 12,000 and 13,500. I'll figure it out tomorrow.

12,000 is 66% of 18,000.

Ginyu confirms that 60k can wipe out the Ginyu Force. So a 1.5x advantage is too much here for Oozaru Gohan vs Vegeta.

It can be somewhere from 1.25-1.33x or so. And this might not even be Gohan's full power either. He must have taken some damage.

 

[theallpowerfulpuipui]

Chapter: 240 (DBZ 46), P8.3
Vegeta: “Damn it! If I hadn’t taken so much damage, then 1 or even 2 guys like this…[wouldn’t be a problem]. That moon I created will last another hour. I’ve got to cut his tail off!!”

Those would make it seem 10x isn't for real and the actual boost in power is arbritary. 56k internet goes down again.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Those would make it seem 10x isn't for real and the actual boost in power is arbritary. 56k internet goes down again.

You lost me here? Why wouldn't the 10x boost be legit?

 

[theallpowerfulpuipui]

You lost me here? Why wouldn't the 10x boost be legit?

The part where Vegeta implies he could fight maybe a couple of transformed Gohans and his full strength. Not that it matters because the blutz moon, near khh death, and losing his tail lowered his power significantly.

 

[Power Level Guy]

The part where Vegeta implies he could fight maybe a couple of transformed Gohans and his full strength. Not that it matters because the blutz moon, near khh death, and losing his tail lowered his power significantly.

What about it? What is your point? I'm missing it. Are you talking about how well Vegeta did despite his injury?

 

[Power Level Guy]

@Hector

I know think that Gohan is powering up slightly after every battle.

Gohan (Spaceship) > Gohan (vs Vegeta) > Gohan (vs Nappa)

Slight increases in power, but this is what makes sense to me...


Gohan (vs Nappa) 1,250
Gohan (vs Vegeta) 1,375
Krillen 1,400
Gohan (vs Krillin) 1,500

This is what makes the most sense I think.

Vegeta thinks he can take maybe 2 Oozarus who are 75% of his power. I think that works out good, don't you?

I think 2 80s probably can beat 1 100.

2 Dr. Geros can beat 1 Piccolo.