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post your Pls for them
He stated that he surpassed his father back then whose PL was 10K if not more.KyuubiAhri said:why do you have vegeta so high?
Chapter: 296 (DBZ 102), P2.2-3, P3.1
Context: still talking about Freeza’s transformations
Vegeta: “Don’t be scared, he’s bluffing…he won’t change that much.”
Freeza: “Oh, is that right? Look vee—eery closely. This isn’t something you get to see very often. Even when I attacked Planet Vegeta, where the Saiyans lived, and fought with the king, I was able to win without any need to transform whatsoever…Vegeta…your father wasn’t anything special.”
Vegeta: “Chih…! Don’t feel too good about yourself over that…I already surpassed the king’s power back when I was a kid…!”
That's subjective but when you look at the TV special of Bardock, it seems that Vegeta did surpassed his father during that time.KyuubiAhri said:"Kid" is a very vague word.When frieza destroyed Planet vegeta he was only 6.He doesnt have to be that strong at such age.He could be 10,12 or anything that is considered a kid
Fearless Hit said:If I remember correctly, Bardock surpass King Vegeta when Goku was born which was at the end of his life.
Even though training to get more powerful is a Saiyan stereotype only three Saiyans in the entire series (Goku, Vegeta, and Future Trunks) ever cared about getting stronger. The rest are a bunch of slackers, it isn't a mystery how the Tuffles had them enslaved so long despite the power disparity. The lazy fucks didn't even bother looking at the moon once every ten years.Fearless Hit said:Vegeta: Over 10K but below 15K
Nappa: 7000
Raditz: 1100
Honestly, Only Vegeta cares about getting stronger while the rest don't.