how strong were Vegeta Nappa and Raditz when frieza destroyed planet vegeta?

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Vegeta: Over 10K but below 15K
Nappa: 7000
Raditz: 1100

Honestly, Only Vegeta cares about getting stronger while the rest don't.
 

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KyuubiAhri said:
why do you have vegeta so high?
He stated that he surpassed his father back then whose PL was 10K if not more.
Chapter: 296 (DBZ 102), P2.2-3, P3.1
Context: still talking about Freeza’s transformations
Vegeta: “Don’t be scared, he’s bluffing…he won’t change that much.”
Freeza: “Oh, is that right? Look vee—eery closely. This isn’t something you get to see very often. Even when I attacked Planet Vegeta, where the Saiyans lived, and fought with the king, I was able to win without any need to transform whatsoever…Vegeta…your father wasn’t anything special.”
Vegeta: “Chih…! Don’t feel too good about yourself over that…I already surpassed the king’s power back when I was a kid…!”
 

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"Kid" is a very vague word.When frieza destroyed Planet vegeta he was only 6.He doesnt have to be that strong at such age.He could be 10,12 or anything that is considered a kid
 

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KyuubiAhri said:
"Kid" is a very vague word.When frieza destroyed Planet vegeta he was only 6.He doesnt have to be that strong at such age.He could be 10,12 or anything that is considered a kid
That's subjective but when you look at the TV special of Bardock, it seems that Vegeta did surpassed his father during that time.
 

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oh sorry i didnt mean to be rude. Anyway,in a interview toriyama stated that bardock is a low class (power level wise) and that clearly contradicts what we see in the special
 

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If I remember correctly, Bardock surpass King Vegeta when Goku was born which was at the end of his life.
 

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Fearless Hit said:
If I remember correctly, Bardock surpass King Vegeta when Goku was born which was at the end of his life.

This is what i found in the interview
About how high was Bardock’s battle power, ultimately? (In Episode of Bardock) Also, if he hadn’t been defeated by Freeza and had continued his growth, about how strong would he have gotten?

To be honest, I haven’t thought it through that far, but Bardock is a low-class warrior. Although even saying that, almost all [Saiyans] were low-class warriors, and there were only about 10 mid-class warriors. And when you get to the elite warriors, there’s only King Vegeta and Prince Vegeta. Bardock is in the upper ranks as far as low-class warriors go, but he isn’t able to become a mid-class warrior.
This rank is determined by an innate latent battle power, but naturally, if their battle power rises greatly afterward, they can be promoted.

so according to this, he is just a low class as far as power goes
 

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Bardock: 10.000
King Vegeta: 11.000
Kid Vegeta: 12.000
Nappa: 6.000
Raditz: Lol, wasn't he a kid back then? Dunno, definitely a lot less than 1.000
 

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I don't have any issue with the Bardock special other than Bardock being wildly overrated imo.

Kid Vegeta > King Vegeta during the movie is fine for me. I do think Adult Vegeta could stand to be a bit more stronger than what is suggested. I think Adult Vegeta should be 2 or 3x stronger than Kid Vegeta. But I don't go by scouter numbers.
 

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Fearless Hit said:
Vegeta: Over 10K but below 15K
Nappa: 7000
Raditz: 1100

Honestly, Only Vegeta cares about getting stronger while the rest don't.
Even though training to get more powerful is a Saiyan stereotype only three Saiyans in the entire series (Goku, Vegeta, and Future Trunks) ever cared about getting stronger. The rest are a bunch of slackers, it isn't a mystery how the Tuffles had them enslaved so long despite the power disparity. The lazy fucks didn't even bother looking at the moon once every ten years.
 

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Well no. Saiyans didn't have the technology that made their genetic attributes hax mode. Saiyans battled all their life and they would recover and grow stronger after every hard battle. Problem with that is healing naturally takes long as fuck. Eating a sensu bean or being in a healing pod vastly quickens the process allowing for them to enter cheat mode. Some of the injuries Goku and Vegeta encountered were life changing and horrific. After Goku's battle with Vegeta, the doctor told him he wouldn't ever be the same again. He had his whole body crushed. Without a sensu, that is a much different Goku. The more you know...
 

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Raditz entered pods and he was weak as fuck. Saiyans are lazy and are on food stamps.
#MakePlanetPlantGreatAgain
 

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Haha... Well, just having a healing pod is not enough. You need to be severely damaged as well. Even someone as lowly as Raditz honestly probably wouldn't get hurt too often in battle. And Vegeta? Forget about it. He is well over 10k and he can transform into a Great Ape whenever he wants with a power level of over 100k. When would he ever really get damaged? The only people who can really put it on him are on the same side as he is. So you can see that the Saiyans could just be so strong that they don't often run into stronger opponents. And when they do, they are most likely killed. The amount of times the main cast Saiyans get brought to near death and are magically not dealt the finishing blow are comical.

Let's look at reality.

Krillen should have killed Vegeta.
Zarbon should have killed Vegeta.
The Ginyu Force was an instant away from killing him.
How he survived the Ginyu thing was pure luck.
Freeza did kill him.
18 should have killed him.
Cell should have killed him.
He died trying to fight Fat Buu.
Kid Buu should have killed him.

It's just not feasible for an entire race to be this lucky all the time. This is plot armor shit.
 

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Vegeta - 9000.00000002

Nappa - 4821.000004

Raditz - weaker than saibaman shit
 

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