how strong were Vegeta Nappa and Raditz when frieza destroyed planet vegeta?

[Jerk Store]

Vegeta - 9000.00000002

Nappa - 4821.000004

Raditz - weaker than saibaman shit

Naw, Saibamen shit is at least -1!

Love the avatar.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

If I remember correctly, Bardock surpass King Vegeta when Goku was born which was at the end of his life.

This is what i found in the interview
About how high was Bardock’s battle power, ultimately? (In Episode of Bardock) Also, if he hadn’t been defeated by Freeza and had continued his growth, about how strong would he have gotten?

To be honest, I haven’t thought it through that far, but Bardock is a low-class warrior. Although even saying that, almost all [Saiyans] were low-class warriors, and there were only about 10 mid-class warriors. And when you get to the elite warriors, there’s only King Vegeta and Prince Vegeta. Bardock is in the upper ranks as far as low-class warriors go, but he isn’t able to become a mid-class warrior.
This rank is determined by an innate latent battle power, but naturally, if their battle power rises greatly afterward, they can be promoted.

so according to this, he is just a low class as far as power goes

Sure but we're talking about Kid Vegeta so he's likely to be surpassed his father before their planet was destroyed.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

I know i am just saying that TV special is contradictory to what toriyama had in mind.

 

[Zamasubadass]

I know i am just saying that TV special is contradictory to what toriyama had in mind.

It may have escaped your notice,But Vegeta makes a big deal of his first zenkai.Against dodoria he says that he has gained power he has never dreamed of and when he kills him he says that his newfound power surprises even him.So yea,its okay to have kid vegeta stronger than king vegeta

 

[p123]

Considering Toriyama's reaction the the special, I doubt that's the most accurate way to define it. When AT watched it, he said, "So that's how it happened..."

Yea, major zenkais were unheard of. Very rare to be within an inch of death and not die. I agree, I think Bardock is a bit too overpowered for my tastes, but overall, the special is very, very good.

 

[Pyro]

Bardock was an anomaly if you take the TV special into account, but going solely by his single panel in the manga, Toriyama's comment can fit just fine. I for one take the special as semi-canon to the manga with regards to Bardock and Vegeta.

Vegeta - 11,000
Nappa - 5,800
Raditz - 1,000

 

[ahill1]

It's stated that Vegeta surpassed his fathers' strength as a kid, but I have no clue how strong his father was, it's not said anywhere in the manga, only that Freeza considered him no big deal.

 

[Pyro]

It's stated that Vegeta surpassed his fathers' strength as a kid, but I have no clue how strong his father was, it's not said anywhere in the manga, only that Freeza considered him no big deal.

Probably stronger than Nappa, wouldn't you say? So either 4,000+ or ~8,000+ at the very least depending on your view, if you follow scouter numbers.

 

[Jerk Store]

Major consensus puts KV around 10,500 or so because even though it's non canon, Bardock was said to be getting closer to KV with every zenkai, and was last scouted at 10k IIRC.

Then you have Nappa's performance against Goku, and if you wanna place him at 4k, then fine, but many of us put him at the 6-7k range, so 10,500-11,000 for the king sounds fair.

Plus Vegeta said he surpassed his father when he was still a child, so, 11,000+ could be that point he surpassed when still an adolescent.

 

[Pyro]

Major consensus puts KV around 10,500 or so because even though it's non canon, Bardock was said to be getting closer to KV with every zenkai, and was last scouted at 10k IIRC.

Then you have Nappa's performance against Goku, and if you wanna place him at 4k, then fine, but many of us put him at the 6-7k range, so 10,500-11,000 for the king sounds fair.

Plus Vegeta said he surpassed his father when he was still a child, so, 11,000+ could be that point he surpassed when still an adolescent.

"Almost 10,000" for Bardock, so probably around the 9,500-9,800 mark.

 

[ahill1]

Taking the special into account, then 11,000 for Vegeta's father seems fair. Vegeta was said to surpass his father as a child, but that doesn't mean he was > his father at the exact moment Freeza destroyed planet Vegeta, as "kid" is a pretty generic term. So still pretty hard to say, imo.

 

[Papasmurf]

Yeah "kid" could be anywhere between 5 to 15 as Vegeta generally stopped referring to Gohan as a brat after he hit puberty in the Boo arc, and Goku grew rapidly after age 15.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

There's no problem for Vegeta surpassing his father during that time.

 

[p123]

Nothing suggests Bardock's nearly 10k mark was anywhere close to King Vegeta. King Vegeta could be 15k possibly.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Nothing suggests Bardock's nearly 10k mark was anywhere close to King Vegeta. King Vegeta could be 15k possibly.

So you're saying that Vegeta didn't gained much since when he was a kid?

 

[p123]

Gohan sure didn't.

 

[ahill1]

King Vegeta could be 15k possibly.

That'd make Kid Vegeta at like 16k :shock:

 

[Super Saiyan Overlord1007]

I don't mind Vegeta surpassing his father around the time of the Saiyan Genocide.

Nappa I'd guess maybe around1.5-2.5K?
Raditz beneath 1000

 

[p123]

Oh now I remember.

Bardock 9,750
King Vegeta 12,000
Kid Vegeta 12,500

That's what I had it as... King Vegeta needs to be head and shoulders above Bardock still, but Kid Vegeta can't be too close to 18k, so this is a happy medium.

 

[ahill1]

Oh now I remember.

Bardock 9,750
King Vegeta 12,000
Kid Vegeta 12,500

That's what I had it as... King Vegeta needs to be head and shoulders above Bardock still, but Kid Vegeta can't be too close to 18k, so this is a happy medium.

King Vegeta at 10k works?