How strong would Ultimate/Mystic Goten be?

[Fantastische Hure]

Gohan may not like fighting, but he clearly trained very hard for Namek and the androids, not to mention with the Z sword. Goten literally just sparred with Trunks and learned basic martial arts from someone weaker than taopaipai and got to absurd levels of strength. Even Goku calls him an ultra-prodigy despite his older son surpassing him numerous times.

He did, but it does make a difference if your heart is fully into it. I mean look at how easily Goku surpasses others. It's because of how much he likes it and because he can figure-out good ways to improve.

Goten's or Trunks' potential was also never high-lighted nearly as much. Yeah, they were highly gifted but that's about it...or so it seems to me.

 

[Papasmurf]

Gohan's potential was highlighted from an early age because he was the only half-breed for a long time, and even when nearing SSJ2 he was only moderately stronger than Goten was with practically no training by comparison.

It's also worth noting that achieving SSJ2 through rage and getting his power fully unlocked are things Goten never got the opportunity to receive, so it's not really fair to compare the two in that regard. On the other hand, Gohan saying the kids could realistically surpass him if he doesn't train harder shows they have absurdly high growth rates and natural powers, which are clear signs of high potential

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Gohan's potential was highlighted from an early age because he was the only half-breed for a long time, and even when nearing SSJ2 he was only moderately stronger than Goten was with practically no training by comparison.

It's also worth noting that achieving SSJ2 through rage and getting his power fully unlocked are things Goten never got the opportunity to receive, so it's not really fair to compare the two in that regard. On the other hand, Gohan saying the kids could realistically surpass him if he doesn't train harder shows they have absurdly high growth rates and natural powers, which are clear signs of high potential

True about Gohan being the only Half-Saiyan for the longest time, but they could have easily ignored that in the Boo Saga if they wanted to. Not like the Boo Saga cared as much. Instead they were still going with the idea of Gohan being the main-hero and having his potential unlocked.

 

[Papasmurf]

Goku was the main hero for the first half of DBZ despite his potential being way inferior to Gohan's though.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Goku was the main hero for the first half of DBZ despite his potential being way inferior to Gohan's though.

Yeah, but Goku's potential was never high-lighted anyway. Gohan's power-up was a potential-unlock, if he wasn't so special (if Goten and Trunks rival his potential), then why do specifically a potential-unlock? Could have just as-well done some Hax-Training, like Z-Sword. I know this is going into different stuff, though so maybe I'm going way out there.

 

[ahill1]

I am also on the Goten has more potential team. Without serious training, basically only taking sparring sessions with Trunks made him almost as powerful as teen Gohan, who albeit slacked off, didn't get many folds weaker from when he received hard training from Piccolo and Goku.

It's also worthing note that Piccolo considered the kids surpassing Majin Boo after training probably in the RoSaT a possibility, even if it were a small one, whereas Gohan didn't reach that kind of level after training with his father one year.

 

[ahill1]

Actually Gohan trained less than one year, but yeah.

 

[SSJ2]

The kids started wayyyyy higher than Gohan did when entering the RoSaT, so I don't view that as a fair comparison.

 

[ahill1]

Which does show how immense their potential are. Even without serious training Goten is already way above Gohan prior to the Rosat, who had already been trained by Goku and Piccolo, not to mention going through violent battles and having a big power up thanks to Namek Elder. Maybe Piccolo expecting them to level up to Majin Boo's level wasn't a fair comparison, but it shows how they conquered such respect without going through all Gohan did.

Vegeta, who already saw how Gohan's potential was amazing and openly admitting a half Saiyan has a lot of potential, was pretty flabbergasted by Trunks' strength and had to wonder what was happening after learning his son and Goten had almost the same strength.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Yes it does, are you telling me that Gohan from BoZ will be as strong as he's on Boo Arc if his potential is unlock?

That's a poor comparison as it is shown that potential can grow over time. A better question would've been would pre-Z Sword Ultimate Gohan be weaker than or equal to post-Z Sword Ultimate Gohan? They both have the same potential, so they'd I don't see why the potential unlock ritual would yield different results for them.

That's true.