If Fat Boo was close to SSjin3 Goku...

[Tapion]

I think i have a good reason for why Boo wasn't sensed. It could be because he performed a silent power-up, like Cell did against Super Vegeta. Think about it: Fat Boo was getting stomped by Goku, and then all of a sudden he begins to fight evenly with him and stalemate most of his blows. Not to mention the chapter title implies that Fat Boo did a power-up, even though nobody said it aloud.

 

[sei'taer]

All buu not being sensed is that goku is indeed stronger, and that he reached the threshold to be sensed. Or that such an increase in power draws attention.

I don't think they'd make a point of Goku, Gotenks and super buu being able to be sensed, but not fat buu. While goku is unable to tell almost every human being on the planet had just died. Goku doesn't even notice that buu's chi has disappeared right away, which implies it is difficult to sense chi from that far away even when it's very large.

 

[p123]

I think the Gods have 20 / 20 vision times a bajillion. They can see shit that others can't. They can see all the way across the universe. I don't know how. How about Piccolo notifying the group Kid Buu was dead? Weird shit. Yet, Kami couldn't see Cell? Or Kamiccolo couldn't see Cell? This shit doesn't make any sense.

What about Kid Buu seeing Goku and Co on Kaioshin's planet? How does that work. Does he gain Kibito's ability to see everything? Ah What a a fucking mess.

Good call on that panel with Gohan though KP, never thought about that.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I think the Gods have 20 / 20 vision times a bajillion. They can see shit that others can't. They can see all the way across the universe. I don't know how. How about Piccolo notifying the group Kid Buu was dead? Weird shit. Yet, Kami couldn't see Cell? Or Kamiccolo couldn't see Cell? This shit doesn't make any sense.

What about Kid Buu seeing Goku and Co on Kaioshin's planet? How does that work. Does he gain Kibito's ability to see everything? Ah What a a fucking mess.

Good call on that panel with Gohan though KP, never thought about that.

1. Piccolo probably sensed that Boo's negative energy is vanished.
2. Cell was suppressing all the time but in case with Pure Boo who was fighting at full power.
3. Sensing someone is completely different than a ki grabbing anyone's attention.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I always assumed Piccolo only sensed Kid Boo's destruction. He did say his Chi disappeared, after all.

But yeah, Old Kaioshin saw Piccolo take Super Boo to the rosat, so those niggas can see hella far.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I always assumed Piccolo only sensed Kid Boo's destruction. He did say his Chi disappeared, after all.

But yeah, Old Kaioshin saw Piccolo take Super Boo to the rosat, so those niggas can see hella far.

 

[p123]

So why the need for the crystal ball for the other Kaioshins? Their vision not as good?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

So why the need for the crystal ball for the other Kaioshins? Their vision not as good?

Only Old Kaioshin does have that godly vision since he fused with an old witch IMO.

 

[freezamite]

Yours is also just an assumption, and considering Gohan knew Bu wasn't defeated (thanks to Evil Vegeta for posting the corresponding page) it's obvious they were sensing it as well.

Just because he knew that Boo was still alive doesn't mean he sensed him like KP said it could be framed as Gohan simply having the knowledge that Boo is alive rather than having sensed him.

And how did he gather that knowledge? They had to sense it to know Bu wasn't defeated, unless you're saying KaioShin or Kibito teleported to earth without Toriyama showing us which would be a really forced way to interprete the scene.

You might be right this one but there's a difference between sensing a ki and a ki being noticed without sensing it.

Yes, that's right. But your point was that Fat Bu COULDN'T BE SENSED, so unless you think Fat Bu was weaker than casual FPSSSJ Goku or Vegeta that's wrong. We know the SSJ3 was stronger than Fat Bu, and that Goku didn't kill Fat Bu because he didn't want to, but even then, if focusing a bit you can sense the power of a FPSSJ I don't think Fat Bu's power was any difficult to sense.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

And how did he gather that knowledge? They had to sense it to know Bu wasn't defeated, unless you're saying KaioShin or Kibito teleported to earth without Toriyama showing us which would be a really forced way to interprete the scene.

Kaioshin can sensed Boo so he definitely told Gohan that Boo was still alive.

Yes, that's right. But your point was that Fat Bu COULDN'T BE SENSED, so unless you think Fat Bu was weaker than casual FPSSSJ Goku or Vegeta that's wrong. We know the SSJ3 was stronger than Fat Bu, and that Goku didn't kill Fat Bu because he didn't want to, but even then, if focusing a bit you can sense the power of a FPSSJ I don't think Fat Bu's power was any difficult to sense.

No, my point was Fat Boo wasn't sensed the way how SSjin3 Goku was sensed. Goku's ki manage to grab Gohan, Kaioshin and Kibito's attention while Fat Boo didn't. There's a difference when you're trying to sensed someone and a ki that can grab someone's attention without sensing it.

 

[p123]

Where is it suggested that Fat Buu was sensed from that distance?

 

[freezamite]

Yes, that's right. But your point was that Fat Bu COULDN'T BE SENSED, so unless you think Fat Bu was weaker than casual FPSSSJ Goku or Vegeta that's wrong. We know the SSJ3 was stronger than Fat Bu, and that Goku didn't kill Fat Bu because he didn't want to, but even then, if focusing a bit you can sense the power of a FPSSJ I don't think Fat Bu's power was any difficult to sense.

No, my point was Fat Boo wasn't sensed the way how SSjin3 Goku was sensed. Goku's ki manage to grab Gohan, Kaioshin and Kibito's attention while Fat Boo didn't. There's a difference when you're trying to sensed someone and a ki that can grab someone's attention without sensing it.

But grabbing someone's attention isn't the same as it being stronger either.
I mean, imagine now a new star with half of Sun's mass and energy appears suddenly near the Sun, and instead of one Sun we have two. Don't you think that would be sensed and noticed by everyone? Even with half the Sun's strength, it would be commented because it's unusual, it's the novelty.
After 100 years with two suns, the second sun would still be noticeable but nobody would comment on it because it's just the second sun we've already always had.

The same happened there. You don't know if Fat Bu's power could be casually sensed or not. It's simply that Goku's ki became big enough for Gohan to casually perceive it, but that doesn't mean he wasn't casually perceiving Bu's ki as well. Bu wasn't the novelty there, it was Goku so it's only logic that they would comment on that.

 

[p123]

No one was casually sensed from that distance though.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Kibito talked about the fact that the power could reach that distance. The Chi being big enough to be sensed from that distance is the big deal. Fat Boo never reached that level, and you're left with assumptions to believe he did. If Kaioshin can tell that every human was wiped out in an extent, it isn't a stretch to believe he could tell Fat Boo was still around.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Yes, that's right. But your point was that Fat Bu COULDN'T BE SENSED, so unless you think Fat Bu was weaker than casual FPSSSJ Goku or Vegeta that's wrong. We know the SSJ3 was stronger than Fat Bu, and that Goku didn't kill Fat Bu because he didn't want to, but even then, if focusing a bit you can sense the power of a FPSSJ I don't think Fat Bu's power was any difficult to sense.

No, my point was Fat Boo wasn't sensed the way how SSjin3 Goku was sensed. Goku's ki manage to grab Gohan, Kaioshin and Kibito's attention while Fat Boo didn't. There's a difference when you're trying to sensed someone and a ki that can grab someone's attention without sensing it.

But grabbing someone's attention isn't the same as it being stronger either.
I mean, imagine now a new star with half of Sun's mass and energy appears suddenly near the Sun, and instead of one Sun we have two. Don't you think that would be sensed and noticed by everyone? Even with half the Sun's strength, it would be commented because it's unusual, it's the novelty.
After 100 years with two suns, the second sun would still be noticeable but nobody would comment on it because it's just the second sun we've already always had.

The same happened there. You don't know if Fat Bu's power could be casually sensed or not. It's simply that Goku's ki became big enough for Gohan to casually perceive it, but that doesn't mean he wasn't casually perceiving Bu's ki as well. Bu wasn't the novelty there, it was Goku so it's only logic that they would comment on that.

Here's the rebuttal

Kibito talked about the fact that the power could reach that distance. The Chi being big enough to be sensed from that distance is the big deal. Fat Boo never reached that level, and you're left with assumptions to believe he did. If Kaioshin can tell that every human was wiped out in an extent, it isn't a stretch to believe he could tell Fat Boo was still around.

 

[p123]

So him feeling the humans die could be something else. Some Godly shit, they can't sense Buu.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

They can sense him but not the way how Goku was sensed.

 

[freezamite]

Kibito talked about the fact that the power could reach that distance. The Chi being big enough to be sensed from that distance is the big deal. Fat Boo never reached that level, and you're left with assumptions to believe he did. If Kaioshin can tell that every human was wiped out in an extent, it isn't a stretch to believe he could tell Fat Boo was still around.

And how did Bu find Goku FPSSJ if it wasn't through their Ki? We know the power of a FPSSJ could be sensed from that distance, and Bu clearly was above that.

They can sense him but not the way how Goku was sensed.

That's as much as an assumption as Bu having been sensed since the beginning and them not commenting on that because they already knew Bu was there for the whole time.
Both Bu having been sensed or him not being sensed are assumptions, you can't say for sure Bu wasn't casually sensed as well only because Gohan comments on Goku.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Kibito talked about the fact that the power could reach that distance. The Chi being big enough to be sensed from that distance is the big deal. Fat Boo never reached that level, and you're left with assumptions to believe he did. If Kaioshin can tell that every human was wiped out in an extent, it isn't a stretch to believe he could tell Fat Boo was still around.

And how did Bu find Goku FPSSJ if it wasn't through their Ki? We know the power of a FPSSJ could be sensed from that distance, and Bu clearly was above that.

The way they were sensed was different.

 

[freezamite]

Kibito talked about the fact that the power could reach that distance. The Chi being big enough to be sensed from that distance is the big deal. Fat Boo never reached that level, and you're left with assumptions to believe he did. If Kaioshin can tell that every human was wiped out in an extent, it isn't a stretch to believe he could tell Fat Boo was still around.

And how did Bu find Goku FPSSJ if it wasn't through their Ki? We know the power of a FPSSJ could be sensed from that distance, and Bu clearly was above that.

The way they were sensed was different.

And what's the difference exactly? Was it stated anywhere in the manga? To me it seems as if he sensed their powers.