If Super connects with EoZ...

[Classic Adamas]

Does that mean Goku will become the strongest in existence? I was reading the end of Z manga and Vegeta said something like "a strong opponent for you? That's impossible" If you take that literally, it sounds as if Goku surpasses literally everyone lol.

 

[Tapion]

Super will probably retcon EOZ.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

DragonBall Super doesn't even care about what was written a month before, let alone something that's over two decades ago. I think there's a good chance, they might change it.

 

[kriss-]

Vegeta's statement simply means that there is presumably nobody left who can approach the level that he is currently at -much less a human, which is essentially why he finds that idea unbelievable. Regardless, Dragonball Super is definitely connecting with the end of the Mangas serialization and has already made statements regarding the evidence of Oob. Therefore; any strength gains that Goku makes within the events of the show, have to fall short of someone at Kid Boo's strength level -refuting this very important principal is completely unnecessary, as there is nothing that contradicts this ideal.

 

[SSJ2]

Base Goku has some pretty big feats for being weaker than Pure Boo...

 

[kriss-]

If you do not wish to take it upon yourself -as the fan and interpreter of the story, to tie up the events within Dragonball Super in with the events of the end of the Manga's serialization, then that is your problem, not mine. Seeking solutions and alternative explanations that do not contradict with where the story will end up going anyways is the best approach to Super, not the opposite.

 

[Flame]

Zero reason why they wouldn't connect Super to the End of Z. I could definitely see them doing that, but if they do then that means Super can't go too much further in years. The End of Z is 10 years after the end of the Kid Buu fight and Dragon Ball Super is 4 years. So the time they have left is minimal. Because Bulma said to Goku that they hadn't seen each other for 6 years. But I guess I could see them ignoring it and just going along through years.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

DragonBall Super doesn't even care about what was written a month before, let alone something that's over two decades ago. I think there's a good chance, they might change it.

Base Goku has some pretty big feats for being weaker than Pure Boo...

Basically this. Super's already retconned and contradicted a lot of events from the manga, such as Vegeta and Piccolo being aware of Oob long before the EoZ, wherein Vegeta was completely unaware of Boo's reincarnation.

Honestly, trying to limit the power growth of characters such as Base Goku and the ilk based upon trying to keep things "consistent", it's not going to turn out well. If people are already willing to change their entire beliefs on Freeza VS Base Saiyans and such from a manga canon standpoint based on Super, I don't see why it's so hard to accept that Base Goku (DBS) >>> Pure Boo.

 

[kriss-]

Vegeta may have easily forgotten about it. I was a Line Cook a few years back and I can't even recall half of the things I cooked. So it's not out of the realm of possibility.

I can make Base Goku (DBS) =/= Pure Boo work rather well, and I do not generally run into any errors -if anything, it makes more sense and explains why Teen Gohan SSj was so weak. Until I see more convincing evidence, I see no reason to change my mind.

 

[Uchiha]

Goku also thought they might lose to a Kid Boo tier character, lol.

 

[kriss-]

Having Goku's base transformation around his Super Saiyan 3 form in terms of battle power makes the most sense. Because Goku's normal limits have already been reached, he can't do anything more with normal Chi, except learn to control it better. Hence why Akira Toriyama was forced to introduce a new type of Chi, so he can bypass these limitations and continue to make Goku stronger then he already was. Further-more, it is heavily implied that his Base form is essentially as powerful as his previous SSj3 self from the Boo Saga during the event so EOZ -so presumably, he powered up his Base form to a point where he has no stamina loss. This is what is depicted in Dragonball Super, so I see no reason to disregard anything until I see some evidence that makes EOZ completely contradicted, as far as I know, this hasn't happened yet.

 

[Uchiha]

There was no anti-SSJ rule in play for this tournament

 

[Jeff Styles]

EOZ is ten years after Pure Boo's defeat. Pan is 4 years old. She is about a year old now in Super. Bulma told Goku they haven't sees each other in 5 years. I smell retcon.

 

[Uchiha]

What do you mean retcon? EoZ is further ahead in terms of continuity

 

[Jeff Styles]

Changing a few things. By 3 years, maybe even less. About the time Videl is pregnant with Pan (assuming pregnancy takes 9 months in DB), Goku and Bulma didn't sees each other. Yet in Super, they do sees each other after Pan is born. It a minor thing, so it probably going to be ignored since it isn't that important.

 

[Uchiha]

Oh I get that it contradicts but EoZ can't be retconned. It's just Super that is wrong.

 

[kriss-]

Presumably, because the original Manga is the source material then whatever contradictions it makes doesn't matter? Sure.

 

[Jeff Styles]

I hope not, but sometimes new materials do contradict the previous materials and it just became a mess and confusion if it haven't yet.

 

[kriss-]

As the fan it's your responsibility to make it work. I have no issues in doing so.