Ikari Broly VS Golden Freeza

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Ikari :pakl lost to SSJB Goku so Golden Freeza wins, not to mention SSJ Broly failed to kill Golden Freeza for an hour.
 

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Kenshi said:
not to mention SSJ Broly failed to kill Golden Freeza for an hour.

Considering Golden Freeza lasted longer than SSJG Goku did against Ikari despite a much weaker power gap, I just chalk it up to plot convenience.
 

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Yeah, Freeza is insanely durable. SSJ Broly fought on-par with SSJ Gogeta no way is he not much above Freeza.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
Yeah, Freeza is insanely durable. SSJ Broly fought on-par with SSJ Gogeta no way is he not much above Freeza.

SSJ Broly didnt exactly fight "on par" with Gogeta, Gogeta warmed up for a bit in base, realized it wasn't enough, then went SSJ and beat up Broly enough that he was pushed to his full power :pakl form.
 

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Kenshi said:
Fantastische Hure said:
Yeah, Freeza is insanely durable. SSJ Broly fought on-par with SSJ Gogeta no way is he not much above Freeza.

SSJ Broly didnt exactly fight "on par" with Gogeta, Gogeta warmed up for a bit in base, realized it wasn't enough, then went SSJ and beat up Broly enough that he was pushed to his full power :pakl form.
They fought on-par from what I've read but Broly's power kept rising through-out the fight.
 

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Pr sure Brolys power continued to rise until like the last 10 mins of the movid.
 

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Gogeta almost defeats :pakl around that time but Shenron wishes him away, preventing Gogeta from pissing the rest of his ki away and defusing like Vegetto :troll2 :troll2
 

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Frieza surviving Broly for an hour is PIS nonsense, by that logic no one stronger can kill Frieza.

As for this fight, who knows, I watched the fight and they seemed roughly equal as both where landing and hitting each other equally
 

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Ikari Broly lost to Blueku, no? Golden Freeza's been pretty consistently about on par or slightly stronger than Blue ever since the FnF arc.
 

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Assuming this is referring to the Freeza from the film, he wins considering he should be about equal to the SSB Goku who overpowered Ikari Broly. If it's his FnF self, then he gets stomped as his current Golden form ought to be at least 10x stronger than in that arc due to scaling from Goku's rematch with Hit and manga-wise seems to now be on PSSB tier compared to the SSB tier it was before.
 

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Broly wins due to power rising BS.
 

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The power-rising BS is a problem through-out all of DB-Super everyone had this "adapt to battle" thing going-on.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
The power-rising BS is a problem through-out all of DB-Super everyone had this "adapt to battle" thing going-on.
To be fair, Gohan's the only one with this contrivance in the Super manga if you ignore asspull power ups such as Vegeta's rage bursts or the humans getting haxed for the ToP.
 

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Tbf, getting stronger while fighting seems go back from RRA arc when Goku was destroying the RRA.
 

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Fearless In Quarantine said:
Tbf, getting stronger while fighting seems go back from RRA arc when Goku was destroying the RRA.
It wasn't to the extent of entering a completely different tier in an instant though.
 
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