Imagine Cui beating the piss out of Goku and forcing him to nearly destroy his body with Kaioken x3

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I think they said Cui would keep him occupied for the time being.

Cui would win or whittle Vegeta down to a point where he would not be a threat. Cui is supposed to have a life and death battle with Vegeta. Unless they are talking about Vegeta’s current battle power.
 

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I think Cui would give 18k Vegeta a good fight. Vegeta would win but it seemed from a narrative standpoint that it'd be tough for sure. His win would come due to his skills and innate warrior ability, but it'd be tough. The story seems to prioritise similar BPs in face of skills. Vegeta could make it easier by using some tactic like sand in the eyes like he did bs Monster Zarbon. I think his battle vs Monster Zarbon can be one in which they were dead even but Vegeta's battlefield expertise allowed it to be quick. Though Vegeta counted on Zarbon coming at him off guard. Cui would know Vegeta would have the same power as him so he wouldn't come off guard. In the end, Vegeta's tenacity and more ground knowledge would give him the win, but he wouldn't go out unharmed. Imagine something like Goku vs Piccolo Junior in the 23rd Budokai, with the exception of the surprise mouth blast, in which Goku's wits outsmarted him like using his own blast against Piccolo, tricking Piccolo to be giant.

Tbh Vegeta has shown great durability during the battle on Earth. I think his battle vs Cui reflects better what a 1.33x gap is supposed to do.

Most judge Vegeta vs Recoome as 1.33x as well and that wasn't nearly as one sided as Vegeta vs Cui. There Vegeta's tenacity could come into play, but it's also possible Recoome was playing with Vegeta a lot. He let himself be attacked, he was laughing through most of the battle, even wonders "don't you have anything else? So I'll have to kill you". So Recoome seemed more like in a playing mentality. Or maybe he was like 36k. But idk, the blatant 1.33x gap confirmation we got which was Vegeta vs Cui ended up in like 3 blows.

Excellent post
 

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Cui has no hugely amplified blasts or oozaru transformation. Goku would have won with no problems.
Is that so? With no problems? Are you suggesting there wasn't a non-zero chance that Goku would've lost to a Vegeta who didn't use Galick Gun or transform into the Oozaru, or did you misspeak and mean to say something vague about durability like everyone else did? Because one of those I can maybe let slide, the other...not so much.

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Kaio-ken more like Kaio-GAINZ. Galu got so swole despite it only being like a day after he started running back on the Snake Road to get back to Earth lol
 

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Kaio-ken more like Kaio-GAINZ. Galu got so swole despite it only being like a day after he started running back on the Snake Road to get back to Earth lol
It's the pump, with possibly some swelling from damage.
 

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Yeah, Goku wasn't going to be able to hold out for much longer the way things were going. If Vegeta just kept his composure he probably could have easily won.
 

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Cui would be decimated. While Vegeta and Cui would likely stalemate each other, that's irrelevant in the context of battling someone stronger. Vegeta is a tenacious fighter who only backed down against Frieza due to his own childhood trauma. In contrast, Cui immediately panicked when he discovered Vegeta was stronger than him and attempted to escape instead. I can easily see Kaioken x3 Goku knocking Cui away and killing him off with a KKx3 Kamehameha.
 

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Cui would be decimated. While Vegeta and Cui would likely stalemate each other, that's irrelevant in the context of battling someone stronger. Vegeta is a tenacious fighter who only backed down against Frieza due to his own childhood trauma. In contrast, Cui immediately panicked when he discovered Vegeta was stronger than him and attempted to escape instead. I can easily see Kaioken x3 Goku knocking Cui away and killing him off with a KKx3 Kamehameha.
Sure, remember, Vegeta gets a hax to his resiliency based on the fact he's fighting someone he considers his inferior.

He never felt like he was a true superior to Zarbon/Ginyu Force/Freeza for 99% of his life whereas with Goku, he felts he was entitled to being his superior. Mentality is everything, while Vegeta is no doubt as tenacious as they come, that's a huge factor here too. The man spent his entire life trying to right this "wrong." Lol
 
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