is the Potara nerfed

[KyuubiAhri]

Merged zamasu cant overpower the combined blast of Trunks and vegeta.Goku and vegeta were able to break through his barrier (Toei punch but still).If he were anywhere as strong as beerus the allies wouldnt have been able to put this much resistance.Vegito is probably nerfed too cuz he is on the similar level (maybe not,maybe he beats zamasu effortlessly but then he powers up and eventually rivals vegito)

 

[Papasmurf]

I think it's just PIS, but we'll have to wait til next week to make certain.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Yes, the Z fighters shouldn't be able to touch him similar to SSjin4 Gogeta.

 

[Mystic b4 He Got Laid]

Zamasu's fusion is really underwhelming.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

To be fair, Zamack doesn't have to move to fight them.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Maybe the fusion multiplier has a cap and starts decreasing past a certain individual PL. I don't think that's unreasonable.

 

[Papasmurf]

Watch up to the current episode and tell us how you felt then @withheldforprivacy

 

[Pyro]

It's either nerfed or Zamasu is still being a complete idiot, contradicting his supreme mission of eradicating all mortals for his perfect world.

 

[SSJ2]

Zamasu could still be hiding a lot of power.

 

[sei'taer]

Maybe you just all just severely overestimated how strong the potora was.
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[Papasmurf]

Considering this is from Super which you original manga-purists will denounce, I really don't think you'd care either way if the boost was visibly huge like it was in the end of the manga

On that note they'll probably disprove the rivalry boost since Fusion Zamasu will be putting up a fight against Vegetto despite having for the most part weaker fusees.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Maybe the potato-boost for Kaios suck. Elder Kaio-Shin seemingly wasn't that strong and I don't have to talk about Kibito-Kai either.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Or maybe the Potara isn't that great?

 

[Papasmurf]

I doubt that Toei and Toriyama care enough to make that distinction, especially when it looks like SSJB Vegetto isn't having a cakewalk next episode or anything.

And yeah, while I think it's too early to say, I'm starting to think Potara just being nerfed to keep Whis-level characters from being surpassed might indeed be the case. They already nerfed Rosat boosts, so no reason Fusion couldn't suffer from the same shit.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

The manga'll probably be much more consistent with this. Toei don't know what they're doing.

I'd still say though it's a possibility that in the anime it's the same boost just that Zamasu'll probably power-up and reveal his full-power, or it's just an inconsistency like almost anything in the anime.

 

[Papasmurf]

Well the manga has its own share of bullshit, but true Toyotaro tends to keep somewhat more consistent to the original mang0's set of rules.

Then again, he also said he's behind the anime now, but will get ahead soon enough, so he might just troll us all and skip all the way to Black revealing his identity and then fusing with Zamasu and then show how his fight with Vegetto goes before the anime even finishes it... all in one chapter (remember, his manga comes out monthly so he can't dish out chapters that fast)

 

[Fantastische Hure]

He seems to have a plan and have the story all planned-out, where-as Toei just goes with whatever looks kewl for the moment. I can appreciate that. His version of DragonBall Super is million times more comprehensive than the anime.

 

[Super Neko Majin Z]

I don't think Future Zamas got any stronger since he fought Goku the first time, since SSJ2 Trunks was able to keep up with him. Only his immortality and a hefty dose of PIS let him keep up at all with the SSJBs, and he couldn't really hurt them. That means the gap between him and Black is enormous, and they aren't rivals anyway, so it makes sense the Potara boost isn't as much as with Vegetto.

Also, I think Fusion Zamas is consciously trying not to use any effort at all against Goku and Vegeta. The way he sees it, he shouldn't have to exert himself whatsoever to curbstomp mere mortals.

 

[Papasmurf]

Goku said that the Future Zamasu was different than the other one even before realizing he was immortal, so I think he was stronger, just not enough to match the god forms. Either way, the fusees overall end up weaker than Vegetto's halves so the point remains unchanged.

I hope your second point is true, but with power ups being thrown around like candy in Super I wouldn't be surprised if the three Saiyans just got haxed.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

Black: 100
Vegeta: 90
Goku: 50
Zamasu: 35

Rival boost is very small apparently