Is vegeta still stronger than Goku?

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He was sure stronger after his ROSAT trip but that may have been reckoned because goku overpowered M.zamasu's holy wrath by himself while vegeta needed trunks's help,or maybe goku bridged the gap? what do you think?
 

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No, he isn't. Vegeta was never stronger than Goku in the black arc. Goku is stated to be the strongest in U7 with freeza and presumably vegeta being on his level.
 

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supersaiyangodgogeta said:
No, he isn't. Vegeta was never stronger than Goku in the black arc. Goku is stated to be the strongest in U7 with freeza and presumably vegeta being on his level.

Vegeta made Goku black his bitch,while goku couldn't do anything to him
 

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KyuubiAhri said:
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No, he isn't. Vegeta was never stronger than Goku in the black arc. Goku is stated to be the strongest in U7 with freeza and presumably vegeta being on his level.

Vegeta made Goku black his bitch,while goku couldn't do anything to him
A Goku that was weaker than the one that overpowered merged zamasu. The story already stated by Goku Black that Goku would come back to the future stronger than ever.

That and Goku tanked zamasus light of absolution when he went full power, which is something that vegeta couldn't do at less than full power.

Full power Ssb Goku=full power Ssb vegeta>light of absolution>Ssb vegeta(not full power)>Goku Black
 

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supersaiyangodgogeta said:
No, he isn't. Vegeta was never stronger than Goku in the black arc. Goku is stated to be the strongest in U7 with freeza and presumably vegeta being on his level.

Vegeta flat out states he is superior to Goku in episode 63 where he pummels Black, and it isn't disputed.
 

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Yeah, not to mentioned that Black powered up one more time after he defeated Goku but still got beaten up by Vegeta.
 

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I don't think the writers remembered this. Goku is carrying himself as if he is much stronger than Vegeta. This is good enough for me.
 

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Goku is definitely ahead or roughly equal to Vegeta come ToP. But, Goku was always talked about as being superior even back in RoF and the U6&7 Tournament where they're stated to be roughly equal. :troll
 

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supersaiyangodgogeta said:
No, he isn't. Vegeta was never stronger than Goku in the black arc. Goku is stated to be the strongest in U7 with freeza and presumably vegeta being on his level.

Vegeta flat out states he is superior to Goku in episode 63 where he pummels Black, and it isn't disputed.
It's just generic bravado from vegeta. It's no different than vegeta stating he'll outlast Goku in the tournament.

Nonetheless the Goku that lost to black isn't the same one that came back to the future. It was already stated in the story through black that Goku would come back stronger than ever and Goku already matched vegetas full power when they flew through merged zamasus lightning.

That and Goku was pushing back vegetas full power during the baseball match.
 

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Generic bravado? Vegeta has had no problem admitting inferiority in the past. That's a poor excuse. Vegeta spent six months in the RoSat, while Goku spent 12 hours learning the Mafuba. Prior to that, the two seemed about even during their first trips to the future, so how could they be even on their last trip? Unless you think Goku's strength went up just as much from his 12 hours as Vegeta's did during his 6 months...?

Just watched the clip from the baseball episode. They look dead even man... Goku starts to push it away and Vegeta gets upset and manages to start pushing Goku back... then begins to charge a Final Flash until he was distracted by Yamcha trying to steal 2nd base. Only then does Goku manage to bat the ball downfield.
 

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It's no different than vegeta saying that he'll outlast Goku in the TOP.
Black stated that Goku would come back stronger than ever and Goku matched vegetas full power when they both flew through zamasus lightning.

Goku showed power greater than the level that vegeta used to beat black. He didn't come back to the future still weaker than black.

Yeah, that's the point. Goku and vegeta are dead even in the baseball match. Vegeta isn't stronger and that coincides with Goku being stated to be the strongest U7 warrior.
 

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supersaiyangodgogeta said:
It's no different than vegeta saying that he'll outlast Goku in the TOP.
Black stated that Goku would come back stronger than ever and Goku matched vegetas full power when they both flew through zamasus lightning.

Goku showed power greater than the level that vegeta used to beat black. He didn't come back to the future still weaker than black.

Yeah, that's the point. Goku and vegeta are dead even in the baseball match. Vegeta isn't stronger and that coincides with Goku being stated to be the strongest U7 warrior.

can you tell me where Black stated that goku will come greater than ever?
 

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KyuubiAhri said:
supersaiyangodgogeta said:
It's no different than vegeta saying that he'll outlast Goku in the TOP.
Black stated that Goku would come back stronger than ever and Goku matched vegetas full power when they both flew through zamasus lightning.

Goku showed power greater than the level that vegeta used to beat black. He didn't come back to the future still weaker than black.

Yeah, that's the point. Goku and vegeta are dead even in the baseball match. Vegeta isn't stronger and that coincides with Goku being stated to be the strongest U7 warrior.

can you tell me where Black stated that goku will come greater than ever?
During episode 63 before mai shoots black.

Goku Black: Son Goku will be back, even stronger than before....If I defeat him then, my power will reach an ultimate level.
 

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Vegeta trained in ROSAT for and goku did nothing but Train how to do Mafuba
 

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Vegeta is not stronger than Goku anymore. He surpassed him for like a minute in the black arc. Then Goku surpassed his limits against Merged Zamasu and pushed back the holy wrath.

SSB Goku(kkx10)>>SSB Goku~SSB Vegeta~Golden Freeza
 

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