Janemba, Goku, M12

[SSJ2]

Kind of foggy on this so I wanted to go over it.

So we know Veget is equal to his canon self, but is Goku a good deal stronger? After Goku was beaten up pretty badly he was still able to fuse with Vegeta.

Fat Janemba seems to be more or less around Fat Boo, probably weaker if anything based on how Goku manhandled him.

Super Janemba was stomping Goku but his hax abilities were helping. I honestly don't think he's any more than 1.2x Goku.

So is Super Janemba being around SSJ Gotenks pre an accurate placement?

 

[Six Trails]

Fat Janemba is > Fat Boo, and could even be > initial Evil Boo depending on how you interpret the movie's timeline. M12 Goku is also stated to be > canon Goku.

My chain is this:

SS Gogeta > SS Gotenks (post) >>>>>>> Super Janemba > SS3 Goku (M12) >> Fat Janemba > Evil Boo (@ Lookout) > SS Gotenks pre > SS3 Goku (canon)

 

[SSJ2]

Ah right, forgot that he was called the strongest ki ever felt.

I would agree with your chain then, but initial Evil Boo does not seem to be necessary.

 

[Six Trails]

Who is the highest person included in your opinion? SS Gotenks pre?

By initial Evil Boo, I meant the one at the lookout that made Piccolo realize Gotenks has no chance and needs the RoSaT.

 

[SSJ2]

Tough to say actually.

As long as 4 months before the release, SSJ3 Gotenks was already shown. Perhaps initial Evil Boo does make sense then.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

Super Janemba > anime Goku > Gohan > Evil Boo > SSJ Gotenks pre

Super Janemba did better than Bootenks did vs Goku so he's > Bootenks too

 

[Disasters GoOn]

As Mike pointed out, Fat Janemba was stated to be stronger than Majin Boo (probably the Fat Boo).

Goku also hints that he has been training in the afterlife, implying that Movie 12 Goku>>/> Boo Arc Goku.

So, I personally put Super Janemba at around SSj2 Gotenks-tier, and Fat Janemba around the level of Pre-RoSaT SSj Gotenks.

 

[Pyro]

Super Janemba > anime Goku > Gohan > Evil Boo > SSJ Gotenks pre

Super Janemba did better than Bootenks did vs Goku so he's > Bootenks too

What do you mean? A toying Bootenks had Goku on the ropes, and only got hit once while he was distracted.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

Strange, I remember Goku being on his general power tier

 

[Pyro]

Strange, I remember Goku being on his general power tier

No, Goku was unable to land any attacks whereas Bootenks won each exchange with a smile on his face. Gohan did a whole lot better in the filler portion of the fight.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

I'm going to need to rewatch it then. Along with the Bulma frog filler which is now canon

 

[Papasmurf]

Gotenks-Boo defeated Goku with ease and only got hit once while distracted in the filler. By comparison Super Janemba got momentarily stunned by Goku's kick while having his guard up and needed his reality warping skills to get the edge on him.

 

[Zippy]

Super janemba is like base gotenks post for me.

 

[Pakl]

Lmao Janemba is at least in par with the Evil Boo who fought SSjin Gotenks

 

[Event Horizon]

Vegeta started crying at how Goku's gotten stronger, implying he's gotten noticeably stronger at the very least. I have M12 Goku a lot stronger than his canon counterpart, comparable to SSJ Gotenks.

SSJ3 Gotenks >= Super Janemba ~ Evil Boo > M12 SSJ3 Goku >/< SSJ Gotenks > Fat Janemba > Pure Boo > Fat Boo

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

The gap between Janemba and Goku must be a good deal since Goku thinks that Janemba is beyond of his own.

 

[Zippy]

The gap between Janemba and Goku must be a good deal since Goku thinks that Janemba is beyond of his own.

I disagree if you look at the beggining of the fight janemba has trouble even landing one on goku, while goku was sucessfully landing hits until he used that transportation technique of his.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Janemba powered up later.

 

[Six Trails]

Or he just flared his aura.

 

[Zippy]

Yes similar to goku
Here:

And goku here

The only difference is the On and Off aura. The power is likely the same. Besides that i dont see why janemba would be supressed after his previous form just got a whoopin from the same guy.