Kaiba vs. Zane vs. Jack

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The badasses (except Chazz) battle it out.

Kaiba - We all know, uses a beatdown strategy has some OP cards like the haxed anime Crush Card, Chaos Emperor Dragon, and anime Soul exchange. Even without those cards he has his Blue Eyes and a ton of support for it and usually him whipping out Blue Eyes means game over unless you're a main character. But for this match Crush Card, Deck Destruction Virus, and Virus Cannon are barred. They're too OP in the anime.

Chazz - He's had multiple decks throughout the course of GX but mostly he was using the Armed Dragon deck so let's assume he has that one for this triple threat. A friend of mine used to run an Armed Dragon deck and it was fairly a challenge and fun to clash against. Armed Dragon Lv5 - 10 can destroy a monster by discarding another monster assuming said discarded monster is stronger. He has a lot of support for his Ojama cards as lame as they are.

Jack - Plays a power deck similar to Kaiba and usually almost immediately brings out Red Dragon Archfiend and has a ton of cards to keep it from being destroyed and if it is it's usually not long before he brings it back. Really that's the best he's got. Red Dragon Archfiend and it's powered up versions.
 

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I'd still give it to Kaiba. His RFG strategy in the Grand Championship arc was really good, plus he's got Soul Exchange, the Ring cards, and some other useful traps and magic cards.

I don't see Chazz putting up much of a fight, and I don't remember much from Jack.
 

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I think you should change Chazz with Zane. Also does Kaiba have Obelisk. Either way Kaiba takes it. Chazz is trash and Jack never impressed me even with Red-Nova Dragon.
 

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I am not sure who would win between Jack and Zane. I think Jack can pull it off with Red Nova. Kack was really nothing special till Team 5ds vs Team Ragnarok. Also does Jack get Majestic Dragon
 

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If Kaiba has Obelisk then it's game over for the other two.

If he doesn't, Zane may give him quite a bit of trouble with all those crazy Cyber Dragon fusions, but he'd still win.
 

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Zane was a super strategist in GX manga, he'd outclass Kaiba by far in a fair fight. But, most likely, Kaiba would
use something like Anime Soul Exchange or Manga Ring Of Destruction or some virus and crush any strategy.
About Jack, i don't know much, since i haven't read the whole 5DS yet. I bet, in his era, Kaiba's broken cards
are banned.
 

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I don't know about the manga, but in the anime, Zane was constantly using Cyber Dragon. It seemed like the only monster he had in his deck at times. He was still #1, I don't care what they said about Marysue Jaden. Anime Zane would probably put up a really good fight against Kaiba, but Kaiba has more broken cards. GX started to become more in tune with the real game (even changed Crush Card to the TCG effect in the 3rd season), so more strategy had to be used over broken effects.
 

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Lightsworn said:
Zane probably. He managed to beat Jaden who I have better than Kaiba
Jaden lost to Kaibaman, who had a deck modeled after Kaiba.

Although that wasn't "graduation duel" Jaden, if you want to be nitpicky. :p
 

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Yeah Kaibaman stomped Jaden flat giving him a worse ass whooping than Zane & Aster Phoenix put together. But once he gets his Neo Spacians I think he'd be able to put up more of a fight but I'm not so sure if I want to say he'd still win although he'd have better chances especially with his S4 deck which was much more impressive than everything else shown from him beforehand.
 

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Pyrus Rex said:
Lightsworn said:
Zane probably. He managed to beat Jaden who I have better than Kaiba
Jaden lost to Kaibaman, who had a deck modeled after Kaiba.

Although that wasn't "graduation duel" Jaden, if you want to be nitpicky. :p
Mind you, Jaden Beat the copy cat of Yugi's actual deck, who according to Bastion, was copying the King of Games perfectly.
 

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Lightsworn said:
Pyrus Rex said:
Lightsworn said:
Zane probably. He managed to beat Jaden who I have better than Kaiba
Jaden lost to Kaibaman, who had a deck modeled after Kaiba.

Although that wasn't "graduation duel" Jaden, if you want to be nitpicky. :p
Mind you, Jaden Beat the copy cat of Yugi's actual deck, who according to Bastion, was copying the King of Games perfectly.
Well, the point of that duel was to show that even if you netdeck Yugi, you don't have his dueling ability, so I don't think it's an inconsistency. It would appear that the "heart of the cards" is still in effect at that point.

Yugi > Kaiba(man) > Jaden > Demetrius (w/Yugi's deck)
 

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Lightsworn said:
Zane probably. He managed to beat Jaden who I have better than Kaiba
He beat beginning of show Jaden who is nothing compared to end of ahow Jaden with all his neo spacians, and Yubel. Also there is no way Zane is getting past cards like Critias, Blue Eyes Shining Dragon and Obelisk.
 

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Critias is just about one the most unfair cards because it's random. Kaiba can combine it with any of his traps and make up whatever effect he wants.
 

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Pyrus Rex said:
Lightsworn said:
Pyrus Rex said:
Jaden lost to Kaibaman, who had a deck modeled after Kaiba.

Although that wasn't "graduation duel" Jaden, if you want to be nitpicky. :p
Mind you, Jaden Beat the copy cat of Yugi's actual deck, who according to Bastion, was copying the King of Games perfectly.
Well, the point of that duel was to show that even if you netdeck Yugi, you don't have his dueling ability, so I don't think it's an inconsistency. It would appear that the "heart of the cards" is still in effect at that point.

Yugi > Kaiba(man) > Jaden > Demetrius (w/Yugi's deck)
Kaibaman's deck seemed even more advanced than Kaiba's actual deck. Which would be normal because I'm sure Kaiba would update his deck as new cards came out. This Kaibaman would be even better than old Kaiba. I don't have a problem with Hypothetical Kaiba GX > Jaden > Kaiba (Duel Monsters)

Also plot wise, Jaden had to lose in order to relieve him of his stress of losing that he had been experiencing. Similar to how Yugi had to lose to Rafael in order for him to become me good again and save everyone.
 

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Epicnessbeyond said:
Lightsworn said:
Zane probably. He managed to beat Jaden who I have better than Kaiba
He beat beginning of show Jaden who is nothing compared to end of ahow Jaden with all his neo spacians, and Yubel. Also there is no way Zane is getting past cards like Critias, Blue Eyes Shining Dragon and Obelisk.
Power bond and limiter removal could easily dispose of Obelisk. Didnt you watch his graduation match with Jaden? They have no problem get monsters over 4k
 

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Zane got his monster to a whopping 36,900 ATK points in his graduation duel (partially due to Jaden buffing up his own monster). The only God stopping that is Ra, unless Obelisk has two sacrifices ready on the field.
 

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