Kaiba vs. Zane vs. Jack

[Epicnessbeyond]

Zane probably. He managed to beat Jaden who I have better than Kaiba

He beat beginning of show Jaden who is nothing compared to end of ahow Jaden with all his neo spacians, and Yubel. Also there is no way Zane is getting past cards like Critias, Blue Eyes Shining Dragon and Obelisk.

Power bond and limiter removal could easily dispose of Obelisk. Didnt you watch his graduation match with Jaden? They have no problem get monsters over 4k

You are thinking as if this is a real life duel. In the anime God Cards are pretty much unstoppable. Even if Zane does find a way to stop Obelisk, Kaiba would still find a way to stop him. In the anime everyone literally depends on a group of cards. Also Kaiba is close to Atem who is without a doubt better than EoS Jaden.

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

Sorry if you dont understand what I wrote. I cant type on the bus with my phone

 

[Pyro]

I do have to agree with that to an extent. The Colosseum Duel is a good example of Kaiba protecting Obelisk.

 

[Lightsworn]

What's makes you so sure Zane would even let him summon Obelisk?

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

What's makes you so sure Zane would even let him summon Obelisk?

Yugi tried his hardest to stop him from summoning Obelisk. Since this is a anime fight Kaiba will find a way to summon Obelisk. Also without Obelisk with his D.D Sawrm deck combined with his Virus cards and Critias Kaiba would still probably win

 

[Pyro]

I don't even know which version of Kaiba we're using, or if it's a composite. I mean, Crush Card and Virus Cannon (Magic Removal Virus Cannon in the original) are banned, so that leaves CED-EotE, Critias, Blue-Eyes, and a slew of support cards. Obelisk could count as well if we're going that route, but man, that would be one cluttered deck if he had all of his boss monsters.

 

[Super Saiyan Overlord1007]

I thought about the 3 competitors in general meaning their decks are composed of every card we've seen them use in the series. Kaiba has Obelisk, Critias, his D.D. strategy, his Blue Eyes which was a guaranteed game ender unless he was up against a main character or villain, Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon, & Blue Eyes Shining Dragon. I said in the OP Crush Card and his other virus cards are barred but despite that I still think he takes this.

Zane and Jack for me is a toss up. Aside from Red Dragon Archfiend, Majestic Red Dragon, and Red Nova Dragon Jack doesn't really have anything as he's mostly focused on protecting those specific cards.

Zane has multiple ways of bringing out Cyber End Dragon even if it's been beaten or removed to the field. But he has other various of said cards.

 

[Pyro]

A composite Kaiba is ridiculously strong, in my honest opinion. Obelisk speaks for himself, Critias is basically making up cards as he sees fit for the situation, BEWD/BEUD is still a good beatstick (especially in the anime), and Shining Dragon is broken in the movie as it was made to beat the God Cards (how it would beat Ra, I don't know). Plus, all of his other broken cards like Ring of Destruction, Soul Exchange, Enemy Controller, Chaos Emperor Dragon, the list goes on. Kaiba was the man for broken cards in Duel Monsters, excluding the obvious choice of Dartz. Going by anime standards, there's no way Kaiba could lose this. In real life he'd probably get dead draws up the ass with all those powerful monsters, but yeah.

 

[Lightsworn]

Zane can more consistently get out Cyber end dragon. I just don't see how Kaiba can easily win here. Any thing Kaiba does, Zane has an answer to honestly.

 

[Pyro]

Looking through his deck list, he's got counters for Ring of Destruction and Soul Exchange/Enemy Controller, and he can even use one of Kaiba's magic cards with Lost Pride.

But I don't see counters for BESD, Obelisk, CED, and Critias. Unless he's just overpowering them, which is plausible.

 

[Lightsworn]

Power bond gets rid of any monster Kaiba can possibly have, and can even win him the duel if the attack is successful. If he needs more, limiter removal. He can actually just set limiter removal and if Kaiba decides to attack his monster, then it's GG. And Cyber Pheonix will protect Cyber end dragon from being targeted by Spells and traps. Kaiba would need to play very smart to beat Zane IMO.

 

[Pyro]

He would need to play smart, but he's not exactly a dumb duelist. Once he realizes Zane is not a slouch, he'll adjust and take the W. Zane's got answers to a lot of Kaiba's cards, but it's still not enough in my book.

 

[Lightsworn]

I'm curious as to what Kaiba's plan could be to stop a re-occuring powerful Cyber End Dragon, since Zane seems to be able to get it out practically every turn. And if it's not Cyber end, then it's Cyber Twin

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

I'm curious as to what Kaiba's plan could be to stop a re-occuring powerful Cyber End Dragon, since Zane seems to be able to get it out practically every turn. And if it's not Cyber end, then it's Cyber Twin

Obelisk, Critias, BESD.

 

[Lightsworn]

Obelisk the strongest monster still doesn't get over Cyber end dragon.

 

[Pyro]

Obelisk the strongest monster still doesn't get over Cyber end dragon.

Its special ability does, and depending on which version you're going with (infinite ATK or 4000 ATK), that's game for Zane.

Critias would also get past Cyber End, depending on which trap Kaiba feels like fusing it with.

Shining has the potential to if Zane doesn't use Power Bond + Limiter, and it can also use its nuke effect if need be.

But in pure strength, no, Cyber End would likely beat out all three.

 

[Lightsworn]

The point is that Zane definitely can get rid of Obelisk if he needs to. Whether suiciding with him, power bond or limiter removal. Once he's gone he's lost his best monster, while Zane can bring his right back. What I see possible is Kaiba using traps to stall until he gets Critas. In which Zane will in lot's of trouble.

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

The point is that Zane definitely can get rid of Obelisk if he needs to. Whether suiciding with him, power bond or limiter removal. Once he's gone he's lost his best monster, while Zane can bring his right back. What I see possible is Kaiba using traps to stall until he gets Critas. In which Zane will in lot's of trouble.

Blue Eyes Ultimate is stronger than Cyber End. Anime BESD can negate Power Bond and Limiter Removal. He can bring back Obelisk also for 1 turn and give it Infinite Attack or deal 4000 damage to all monsters. BESD's attack would be 4500 for having 5 dragons in his grave. Also Critias can stop Cyber End countlessly.

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

NVM BESD cant stop Limter Removal or Power Bond but he has other ways with traps. Also dont forget Kaiba has Chaos Emperor Dragon.

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

Also EoS Jaden lost to Yugi with only Slifer. Slifer only Yugi is about equal to Kaiba with Obelisk only and no BESD, Chaos Emperor Dragon, and Critias. EoS Jaden is above Yubel who is above Jesse who is above Zane