Kaioshin vs Cell (post Ginger Town)

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I have Kaioshin close to Piccolo in the Buu arc, so I'd say Kaio wins this.
 

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Lightsworn said:
Kaioshin can probably beat Perfect Cell's full power.
Thats why he could not stand to SSjin Goku in the Budokai who is not much stronger than CG Gohan? :facepalm
 

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Guliver said:
Lightsworn said:
Kaioshin can probably beat Perfect Cell's full power.
Thats why he could not stand to SSjin Goku in the Budokai who is not much stronger than CG Gohan? :facepalm
He could paralyze SSJ2 Gohan. Paralyizing SSJ Goku should be far easier and get him a win.

Plus Kaioshin was already aware of SSJ2 Goku's power, so he knows Goku could easily use that power to defeat him without him actually being weaker than SSJ Goku.
 

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Kaioshin also uad some confidence when he and Gohan were going it alone versus Dabra. He felt like the two of them together could get the job done. So he can't be too low on the SSJ chain, otherwise he'd just be no help at all.
 

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Lightsworn said:
Guliver said:
Lightsworn said:
Kaioshin can probably beat Perfect Cell's full power.
Thats why he could not stand to SSjin Goku in the Budokai who is not much stronger than CG Gohan? :facepalm
He could paralyze SSJ2 Gohan. Paralyizing SSJ Goku should be far easier and get him a win.

Plus Kaioshin was already aware of SSJ2 Goku's power, so he knows Goku could easily use that power to defeat him without him actually being weaker than SSJ Goku.
He doesnt know what SSjin 2 is and only Vegeta knew

His magic is not power

Kaioshin can one shot Freeza and no match for SSjin Goku

He is no match for SSjin Gohan who pulled out the Z sword and fought Dabura who Kaioshin is afraid of... Goku comparing Dabura to Cell means Cell is also much stronger than Kaioshin
 

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Southern Gothic said:
Kaioshin also uad some confidence when he and Gohan were going it alone versus Dabra. He felt like the two of them together could get the job done. So he can't be too low on the SSJ chain, otherwise he'd just be no help at all.
Because Gohan can be stronger as Goku said

Kaioshin had nothing with Dabura

He told Gohan he would beat just Babidi
 

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I don't think Kaioshin can do much besides paralyze as far as magic goes. He never showed anything beyond that and materialization, and I don't think he could do at the same time.
 

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Kaioshin is far stronger than a Piccolo far stronger than the one who fought Imperfect Cell

He stomps.
 

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Kaioshin would easily defeat Imperfect Cell... Piccolo (Cell games) is not that weaker than Vegeta and Trunks (Cell games) yet East Kaioshin is way stronger than Piccolo.
 

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Guliver said:
Lightsworn said:
Guliver said:
Thats why he could not stand to SSjin Goku in the Budokai who is not much stronger than CG Gohan? :facepalm
He could paralyze SSJ2 Gohan. Paralyizing SSJ Goku should be far easier and get him a win.

Plus Kaioshin was already aware of SSJ2 Goku's power, so he knows Goku could easily use that power to defeat him without him actually being weaker than SSJ Goku.
He doesnt know what SSjin 2 is and only Vegeta knew

His magic is not power

Kaioshin can one shot Freeza and no match for SSjin Goku

He is no match for SSjin Gohan who pulled out the Z sword and fought Dabura who Kaioshin is afraid of... Goku comparing Dabura to Cell means Cell is also much stronger than Kaioshin
He may not know exactly what SSJ2 is but he already sensed that increase in power when he blew up Yakon and concludes that all the Saiyans have access to that incredible power (SSJ2). So I still don't a problem with him being stronger than all the Super Saiyans in the Boo Arc.
 

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Lightsworn said:
Guliver said:
Lightsworn said:
He could paralyze SSJ2 Gohan. Paralyizing SSJ Goku should be far easier and get him a win.

Plus Kaioshin was already aware of SSJ2 Goku's power, so he knows Goku could easily use that power to defeat him without him actually being weaker than SSJ Goku.
He doesnt know what SSjin 2 is and only Vegeta knew

His magic is not power

Kaioshin can one shot Freeza and no match for SSjin Goku

He is no match for SSjin Gohan who pulled out the Z sword and fought Dabura who Kaioshin is afraid of... Goku comparing Dabura to Cell means Cell is also much stronger than Kaioshin
He may not know exactly what SSJ2 is but he already sensed that increase in power when he blew up Yakon and concludes that all the Saiyans have access to that incredible power (SSJ2). So I still don't a problem with him being stronger than all the Super Saiyans in the Boo Arc.
He said he wasn't confident that he could beat Goku when they met at the Budokai. Long before he knew about SSj2.
 

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Clearin said:
Lightsworn said:
Guliver said:
He doesnt know what SSjin 2 is and only Vegeta knew

His magic is not power

Kaioshin can one shot Freeza and no match for SSjin Goku

He is no match for SSjin Gohan who pulled out the Z sword and fought Dabura who Kaioshin is afraid of... Goku comparing Dabura to Cell means Cell is also much stronger than Kaioshin
He may not know exactly what SSJ2 is but he already sensed that increase in power when he blew up Yakon and concludes that all the Saiyans have access to that incredible power (SSJ2). So I still don't a problem with him being stronger than all the Super Saiyans in the Boo Arc.
He said he wasn't confident that he could beat Goku when they met at the Budokai. Long before he knew about SSj2.
What's your point?
 

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Lightsworn said:
Clearin said:
Lightsworn said:
He may not know exactly what SSJ2 is but he already sensed that increase in power when he blew up Yakon and concludes that all the Saiyans have access to that incredible power (SSJ2). So I still don't a problem with him being stronger than all the Super Saiyans in the Boo Arc.
He said he wasn't confident that he could beat Goku when they met at the Budokai. Long before he knew about SSj2.
What's your point?
That he admitted he couldn't beat Goku before he knew about Super Saiayn 2. In other words he's not stronger than Super Saiyan Goku.
 

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SSjin Gohan >>>> Kaioshin

He released the Z sword and fought with Dabura who Kaioshin was scared of
 
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