Kaioshin vs Yakon

[Jerk Store]

Aka pre bitch Kaioshin and post bitch Kaioshin.

I loved tournament Kaioshin, dude was intimidating.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Kaioshin in general makes no sense. Even when he's about to face Bobbidi, he's talking all brave despite looking like he wants to dookie on himself. Bobbidi actually talked as if he was confident in his magical power against Kaioshin.

Some could say this nervousness was because Boo's release seemed inevitable, but this was before they knew Goku's damage energy would fill the meter the way it did. Kaioshin is just a very odd character that went from cool to a complete bitch.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Aka pre bitch Kaioshin and post bitch Kaioshin.

I loved tournament Kaioshin, dude was intimidating.

The fact that he went on being the most knowledgeable from the tournament and went being clueless inside Babidi's ship. And now he turned into Beerus's bitch and was blamed for not training his universe, pathetic.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

Kaioshin stomps

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Bump because i wanna change my answer

Yakon eats him alive unless Shin gives him the shinning stare of death he gave to Buu.

 

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-DBM/Fine writing: Any Kaioshin stomps any Babidi's fighter except Dabura.
-Plot shit: Kaioshin gets ass raped by Yakon's claws.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

-DBM/Fine writing:

DBM being placed anywhere close to fine writing....

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Anyway, Yakon stomps. Shin immediately deciding they should gang up on Yakon and the Daizenshuu even confirming he's scared of Yakon makes Shin's inferiority undeniable. He could win with his telekinesis, assuming he can use it as effectively as Zamasu, though that's also assuming he doesn't become an amnesiac asshat as per usual, or that he's capable of doing so before Yakon lands a fatal blow.
I don't see his attacks against Boo as being able of stopping Yakon, considering damage dealt to Boo is inconsistent due to Boo's character and his body. It means about as much as him being pierced by bullets.

 

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DBM being placed anywhere close to fine writing....

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DBM has its weak point, but it's great overall.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

-DBM/Fine writing:

DBM being placed anywhere close to fine writing....

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Anyway, Yakon stomps. Shin immediately deciding they should gang up on Yakon and the Daizenshuu even confirming he's scared of Yakon makes Shin's inferiority undeniable. He could win with his telekinesis, assuming he can use it as effectively as Zamasu, though that's also assuming he doesn't become an amnesiac asshat as per usual, or that he's capable of doing so before Yakon lands a fatal blow.
I don't see his attacks against Boo as being able of stopping Yakon, considering damage dealt to Boo is inconsistent due to Boo's character and his body. It means about as much as him being pierced by bullets.

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What do you think about Kaioshin vs Pocus? And Kaioshin vs 18/17?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

What do you think about Kaioshin vs Pocus? And Kaioshin vs 18/17?

#17 >/>> #18 >/>> Pui Pui > Shin in terms of pure power. The reasoning for Pui Pui > Shin I've already went over in the thread about that topic. As for #18, she should be at least on par with Base Trunks. Vegeta needed to be on guard to avoid being hit by Trunks and treat his power as serious, whereas he found Pui Pui pathetic. #17, in turn should be a good deal above the three, considering the implication of Weighted Kamiccolo > #18.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

[#17 >/>> #18 >/>> Pui Pui > Shin in terms of pure power. The reasoning for Pui Pui > Shin I've already went over in the thread about that topic. As for #18, she should be at least on par with Base Trunks. Vegeta needed to be on guard to avoid being hit by Trunks and treat his power as serious, whereas he found Pui Pui pathetic. #17, in turn should be a good deal above the three, considering the implication of Weighted Kamiccolo > #18.

Shin didn't show signals of knowing Pocus, but i still think Pocus > Shin due to Babidi's confidence, though. And what about the implications of Kibito being not too far from Base Gohan?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

And what about the implications of Kibito being not too far from Base Gohan?

The Z-Sword scene is enough to show how reliable that is. Sure, you could bring up physical strength =/= Ki strength, but I doubt Toriyama would bother bringing this up, as well as Kibito not being able to lift the Z-Sword when Goku and Gohan can, if he wanted to truly convey Kibito was close to Gohan.

 

[ahill1]

-DBM/Fine writing:

DBM being placed anywhere close to fine writing....

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Anyway, Yakon stomps. Shin immediately deciding they should gang up on Yakon and the Daizenshuu even confirming he's scared of Yakon makes Shin's inferiority undeniable. He could win with his telekinesis, assuming he can use it as effectively as Zamasu, though that's also assuming he doesn't become an amnesiac asshat as per usual, or that he's capable of doing so before Yakon lands a fatal blow.
I don't see his attacks against Boo as being able of stopping Yakon, considering damage dealt to Boo is inconsistent due to Boo's character and his body. It means about as much as him being pierced by bullets.

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By that logic wouldn't we have Yakon > Dabra? Because Kaioshin suggests everyone ganging up on Yakon after Goku and Vegeta already made clear the Demon king isn't a big deal. Besides, he also sensed SSJ2 Gohan at the Budokai and wasn't so impressed about it, yet he thinks an opponent ~ base Goku is worthy everyone's powers? The implications of Yakon > Kaioshin are already pretty wacky if you ask me. Not to mention Kaioshin's performance against fat Boo... he could push him back with a kiai and destroy fat Boo's blast aimed to kill Gohan SSJ... how would Yakon, who could barely outperform base Goku, ever come close to that?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

By that logic wouldn't we have Yakon > Dabra? Because Kaioshin suggests everyone ganging up on Yakon after Goku and Vegeta already made clear the Demon king isn't a big deal. Besides, he also sensed SSJ2 Gohan at the Budokai and wasn't so impressed about it, yet he thinks an opponent ~ base Goku is worthy everyone's powers? The implications of Yakon > Kaioshin are already pretty wacky if you ask me. Not to mention Kaioshin's performance against fat Boo... he could push him back with a kiai and destroy fat Boo's blast aimed to kill Gohan SSJ... how would Yakon, who could barely outperform base Goku, ever come close to that?

Shin was also questioning Vegeta's confidence against Pui Pui, so most likely he believed the Saiyans were vastly underestimating their opponents. It's most likely the SS2 Gohan event got retconned until Shin remembered it after Yakon's death, otherwise the events with he and Pui Pui make no sense. His performance against Boo means little to nothing, since damage feats against Boo aren't good to judge, otherwise we'd be saying bullets can deal SS2 tier damage. Destroying a blast aimed for someone else means little either, considering Piccolo did the same to Enraged Gohan's Masenko against Freeza.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Kaioshin is extremely weak, I doubt that he can take on the Base Saiyans. What's interesting is that Kibito Kai coudn't even beat Popo and Dende in GT. :toei