Kamehameha: The most versatile technique?

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It's just a two handed ki blast, and it seems to require a couple of seconds to charge up. Doesn't seem that versatile to me.
 

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Kenshi said:
It's just a two handed ki blast, and it seems to require a couple of seconds to charge up. Doesn't seem that versatile to me.

We see it used for propulsion, from the feet, 1-handed blast, combined with teleportation, can change it's trajectory, ect.
 

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Pretty sure any standard ki blast can change its trajectory or be shot from the feet. Anything can be fired in different stances, really.
 

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I'd say it has more to do with how the users have utilised the technique rather than the move itself. Whenever it's used in a new, strategic way, it's usually attributed more to Goku's growth as a fighting genius rather than the technique's general potential. Considering Vegeta described it as just like his Gyarikku Ho, it stands to reason that most linear Ki waves such as those and the Masenko could hold the same level of versatility under the right hands. A lot of its uses are ones we've seen of other techniques (multiple homing techniques used by characters such as Kuririn, Piccolo or Freeza) or things like the Shunkan Ido Kamehameha not being replicated due to being something only possible through Goku's combination of techniques and tactics.
 

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Not really. As CC said, it's more about Goku's ability to use the Kamehameha in creative ways than anything else. I'd argue that the Transforming Ray, for instance, is far more versatile. I mean, this is a technique that quite literally allows the user to turn anything into the matter they want. It's a shame Boo himself mostly use it to turn things into food, because I could think of about a million of ways this kind of ability could be useful, in and out of fights.
 

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Keedounan said:
It's a shame Boo himself mostly use it to turn things into food, because I could think of about a million of ways this kind of ability could be useful, in and out of fights.
Not just Boo, but it's a surprise that DBO didn't essentially have a Majin race become basically the ultimate labour force. Helping reinforce an amusement park is at least a step up from Boo's usage, but still far from as beneficial as an entire race of magic users with materialisation/transmutation abilities (as well as possibly healing, though that may have been exclusive to Boo as a trait from Dai Kaioshin) could accomplish for the planet as a whole.
 

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Keedounan said:
Not really. As CC said, it's more about Goku's ability to use the Kamehameha in creative ways than anything else. I'd argue that the Transforming Ray, for instance, is far more versatile. I mean, this is a technique that quite literally allows the user to turn anything into the matter they want. It's a shame Boo himself mostly use it to turn things into food, because I could think of about a million of ways this kind of ability could be useful, in and out of fights.

I said versatile, not what's more haxed or potent. Candy beam is just a one-note ability, whilst the Kamehameha is something that can be changed and utilized under different circumstances.
 

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What do you guys think?
I say yes in that it's Ki energy after all.

No in that the users, Goku, Krilin, Master Roshi, Tien, Yamcha, Gohan, Cell, hasn't done anything all that different from each other when it comes to usage except Goku has used it as method to launch himself.
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My reason for yes is as I said it's Ki Energy fired by Ki manipulators so why can't it be manipulated.
YES it's versatile but not the most.
I think it's like any other form of Ki.
The Kamehameha could be compressed like thin like a disk, or compacted into a dense tight beam like the Special Beam Cannon.
Or widened & fired in small bursts like the Tri-Beam.
 

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It is, but it’s more a product of Goku’s creativity than the technique itself. Anyone else could’ve come up with those things with most Ki waves if they were as battle smart as Goku.
 

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Future Warrior said:
I said versatile, not what's more haxed or potent.

You say that as if both are mutually exclusive, which is certainly not the case with my example.

Candy beam is just a one-note ability, whilst the Kamehameha is something that can be changed and utilized under different circumstances.

The only thing one-note about the "candy beam", is the way Boo used it, which is the only reason we call it as such instead of what it actually was, transmutation. Just as one-note as the way any character besides Goku used the Kamehameha.

While Boo mostly used it to turn enemies into food, we've clearly seen he can use it differently, when he created his own house for example. He could use it something like, for example, a weapon, or a distraction.
Do you imagine what a weapon made of Katchin could do as far as Boo arc goes? And we've seen how effective a basic weapon was when combined Trunks' ki.

It even has potential outside of fights, something not many techniques from DB can boast. I'd say it's pretty versatile. It doesn't even seem to have any actual weakness or limitation besides it's ineffectiveness against much stronger opponents...which is a common DB technique weakness.
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
It is, but it’s more a product of Goku’s creativity than the technique itself. Anyone else could’ve come up with those things with most Ki waves if they were as battle smart as Goku.
As innovative you mean.
Sure anyone could & that would be great as it would add more variety to Ki blast techniques but doubtful Akira Toriyama would bother.

Ki Blasts, Ki Energy itself should be very versatile & highly manipulative especially by characters who can actually & manipulate conjure Ki Energy.

Other than learning how to I don't see how any one Ki blast would always be conjured with the same appearance.
Is it like blowing smoke rings?
Is it the hand gestures, that doesn't seem likely cause can't the Kamehameha be done single handedly?
Also couldn't someone manipulate a Kamehameha inside another person?

Possibilities Right.
Any of those wouldn't break the logic of the DragonBall Universe, just utilize it more.



Keedounan said:
The only thing one-note about the "candy beam", is the way Boo used it, which is the only reason we call it as such instead of what it actually was, transmutation. Just as one-note as the way any character besides Goku used the Kamehameha.

While Boo mostly used it to turn enemies into food, we've clearly seen he can use it differently, when he created his own house for example. He could use it something like, for example, a weapon, or a distraction.
Do you imagine what a weapon made of Katchin could do as far as Boo arc goes? And we've seen how effective a basic weapon was when combined Trunks' ki.

It even has potential outside of fights, something not many techniques from DB can boast. I'd say it's pretty versatile. It doesn't even seem to have any actual weakness or limitation besides it's ineffectiveness against much stronger opponents...which is a common DB technique weakness.

I agree There's Potential use to Ki it' just a matter of one's creativeness/inattentiveness.
DragonBall characters like Goku, Vegeta in my opinion seem like beginners when it comes to Ki manipulation.
There's so much more they could do & ways they could apply Ki that it's sad how Akira Toriyama doesn't take advantage of that.

The point you made about Trunk's weapon.
Characters like Dante, Bayonetta, can super charge their guns with their own power, so why not Goku & Vegeta doing that.
 

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Keedounan said:
The only thing one-note about the "candy beam", is the way Boo used it, which is the only reason we call it as such instead of what it actually was, transmutation. Just as one-note as the way any character besides Goku used the Kamehameha.

While Boo mostly used it to turn enemies into food, we've clearly seen he can use it differently, when he created his own house for example. He could use it something like, for example, a weapon, or a distraction.
Do you imagine what a weapon made of Katchin could do as far as Boo arc goes? And we've seen how effective a basic weapon was when combined Trunks' ki.

It even has potential outside of fights, something not many techniques from DB can boast. I'd say it's pretty versatile. It doesn't even seem to have any actual weakness or limitation besides it's ineffectiveness against much stronger opponents...which is a common DB technique weakness.

If memory serves correct, Boo needs a person to create matter with his ability. You would have to be assume that there are plenty of people around him for him to use ability to the extent that you suggest it can be used, which I guess there isn't any reason to assume there wouldn't be, but that's still a flaw that is depended upon a condition. Kamehameha doesn't have that, it uses the persons own Ki energy.
 
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