Karin vs Piccolo-Daimao (Old; Initial)

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Karin said he couldn't teach anything to Goku, no?

Old Daimao initial > Goku > Karin
 

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Doflamingo said:
Karin said he couldn't teach anything to Goku, no?

Old Daimao initial > Goku > Karin
Piccolo at less than half-power is higher than Goku. Goku before Piccolo powered-up was actually winning.
 

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Didn't he knock Piccolo down or something? What happened after that?
 

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Doflamingo said:
Didn't he knock Piccolo down or something? What happened after that?
ye, he knocked him down & then he said he could see now why his children were no match for him & then he powered-up (to using less than half-power)
 

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I think Karin is stronger, but it's hard for me to imagine him actually in combat/fighting for whatever reason...
 

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Oh, I thought he started at 40. Never mind then.

Eh, I'm not sure. I've never liked Karin being too close to that Goku, so I'd probably still give it to Piccolo.
 

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SSjin 3 Kibito said:
I think Karin is stronger, but it's hard for me to imagine him actually in combat/fighting for whatever reason...
if not at that level, i think for sure that karin'd be at-least higher than yajirobe & master-mutaito

that's at-least, but he might be way higher
 

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Probably Karin. Karin puts a great emphasis on Goku having surpassed even him, so I doubt he'd have been knocked down nearly as fast
 

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Goku was seemingly unaware that he had surpassed Karin and thought that he would still be a good teacher implying that the difference was minimal. Goku was noticeably besting Initial Piccolo, so yeah Karin wins.
 

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I have two distinct impressions about Karin's power : one where he is not so far ahead of Goku ( post Karin ), since the cat was having trouble to dodge Goku's attacks and other where he he is not far behind Goku's ( Post Piccolo Daimao ) power, since like Kenshi said Karin puts a great emphasis on Goku having surpassed even him. For this reason I like to have Karin ( Piccolo saga ) >>> Karin ( First appearance ) as old as it seems lol.

Assuming that is Karin during Piccolo saga I'd give this to him given the great emphasis that he puts on Goku surpassing him and because I think it's very possible Goku received a Zenkai after his first fight with Piccolo.
 

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