Limit Break Vegeta vs Champa

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I'm by no means an expert on Super but I believe Champa wins. My reasoning for this is that Vegeta was going toe to toe with Toppo who had just reached the Hakaishin level, so I think he's still a fair bit weaker than all the other GoDs who had plenty of time to get adjusted to the use of Hakai energy. According to the manga Beerus is also implied to be one of the strongest among the Gods, and Champa is supposedly not far behind him, although I don't know how the manga and anime continuities fit with each other at all.

I think only MUI Goku is above the level of the GoDs based on what the V-Jump insert said about him, but my memory is hazy and we'll have to wait for actual feats to determine that. Either way, I think Champa wins with mid-high difficulty.


Although I wonder if Vegeta's Explosion would be enough to bring him down...
 

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Vegeta ought to be on the same level as the Hakaishin given Toppo was referred to as practically being a Hakaishin several times, though I'd say Champa would still be superior and can use Hakai far better than Toppo given his position. Doubt the Final Explosion would change things, given it only overpowering Toppo and not destroying him when Vegeta wouldn't have been able to even control that outcome suggests it's boost is highly nerfed compared to the one against Boo.
 

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Vegeta still gets beat, although he puts up a decent fight.
 

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Pyro said:
Vegeta still gets beat, although he puts up a decent fight.

Then you think normal UI Goku beats Beerus?
 

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Not sure. Maybe this new one, but not the first two.
 

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Vegeta's only hope is to try and bait Champa into slapping his wife.
 

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I like the idea of Goku and Vegeta finally surpassing Beerus and the other GoD's (reinforced by Vegeta being stronger than Toppo) with their new limit breaking forms, so for now I'm inclined to say Champa loses here. Even if he was weaker though, he still has the final explosion under his disposal.
 

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Pyro said:
Not sure. Maybe this new one, but not the first two.

Wouldn't Vegeta lose then? Is he ever implied to be above the first two UI Goku?
 

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Nobody except Kefla has been stated or implied to be above any UI Goku, other than Jiren, but you'll find people argue for Toppo because he came after Kefla and such.
 
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