LOVE or HATE SUPER!? What Are The Pros & Cons ?

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I'm still watching because i like the huge scaling.
It's ridiculous everyone that doesn't have Godlyki is almost instantly given a gigantic power boost to almost God ki level nearly making God ki pointless altogether.

But honestly i think the gigantic power scaling for all the characters are so late they should've been Broly level during the Frieza saga, so on that i very much like.

My questions are excluding animation what is exactly wrong with SUPER & what is SUPER doing right.

Why the Love & or Hate????
 

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Super gives us a great quality of entertainment and also a character developments. We've got to see what Goku does other than training which is earning a livelihood for his family as a farmer something that DBZ didn't tell us. We've got to see how Krillin works and earn his money or whether or not he's still living with Roshi and Super showed us that he got his own job and new house as well. Another development was Tienshinhan and we don't know what he was doing on Z other than training but Super showed us that he opened his new dojo and now became a master. I love DBZ because of its actions, great fights and great plot-holes but I've always wondered what they're doing outside of fighting and Super gave us that.

Maybe the most ridiculous thing that haters hates about Super is the power scalling which is true but let's not forget that the early series has lots of ridiculously power ups that makes no sense and the only explanation of that is the plot demands it that's all. There was a time when Freeza was considered to be a god level that cannot be surpassed but guess what, he was surpassed easily by the next arc and considered to be trash later and that's ridiculousness is over :9000 but the haters ignores it and continue to do their shitty power levels that Toriyama dropped off long time ago and never looked back. When the gap doesn't make sense to their PL system, then that can be considered as trash.

Hate it? Don't watch it! :elmo
 

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Black Saga was fucking phenomenal, but i don't like DBS. I really like the manga, though.
 

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Hate the anime for the most part, love the manga for some parts. It's a love hate thing for me.
 

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I don't love it or hate it, it's just extremely meh to me. The anticipation of cool fight scenes is literally all that keeps me coming back. I don't give two shits about any of the actual characters really, they are easily forgettable.

Beerus, Champa, angels, Hit, Frost, Black, Zamasu, Toppo, Zeno, etc... are nothing compared to Daimao, Freeza, Cell, and even Buu in the interesting department. Ok, maybe Zamasu, but he will still be forgetabble compared to those 4 in the test of time.
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Black Saga was fucking phenomenal, but i don't like DBS. I really like the manga, though.

xmysticgohanx said:
Super anime is great

Jeff Styles said:
Hate the anime for the most part, love the manga for some parts. It's a love hate thing for me.

-Supreme- said:
It's beyond hate.

Why exactly?

What exactly you do or do not like about SUPER ?
I've read online people saying each episode is worse then the last because of the ridiculousness.
Apparently both Manga & Anime aren't what people wanted.
"this chapter is shaping up to be worse than the anime."

"toto is an idiot. Give me gogeta not this horse shit toto."

"absolute stupidity

even dumber than spirit trunks and other shit from the anime"

So what are the pros & cons exactly ?
 

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VampireWicked said:
GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Black Saga was fucking phenomenal, but i don't like DBS. I really like the manga, though.

xmysticgohanx said:
Super anime is great

Jeff Styles said:
Hate the anime for the most part, love the manga for some parts. It's a love hate thing for me.

-Supreme- said:
It's beyond hate.

Why exactly?

What exactly you do or do not like about SUPER ?
I've read online people saying each episode is worse then the last because of the ridiculousness.
Apparently both Manga & Anime aren't what people wanted.
"this chapter is shaping up to be worse than the anime."

"toto is an idiot. Give me gogeta not this horse shit toto."

"absolute stupidity

even dumber than spirit trunks and other shit from the anime"

So what are the pros & cons exactly ?
They don't like DB/Z/Super. :rape
 

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VampireWicked said:
GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Black Saga was fucking phenomenal, but i don't like DBS. I really like the manga, though.

xmysticgohanx said:
Super anime is great

Jeff Styles said:
Hate the anime for the most part, love the manga for some parts. It's a love hate thing for me.

-Supreme- said:
It's beyond hate.

Why exactly?

What exactly you do or do not like about SUPER ?
I've read online people saying each episode is worse then the last because of the ridiculousness.
Apparently both Manga & Anime aren't what people wanted.
"this chapter is shaping up to be worse than the anime."

"toto is an idiot. Give me gogeta not this horse shit toto."

"absolute stupidity

even dumber than spirit trunks and other shit from the anime"

So what are the pros & cons exactly ?

People love to be vocal about their hate. Super is amazing. Even the manga isn't bad, just in comparison to the anime it is. Hit is lame, Black isn't as awesome, no kaioken, no ikari
 

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The fights can be entertaining if you ignore the story and how strong/weak characters are supposed to be. That's about all the praise I can give to the anime.
 

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Everything is great except the power scalling that's all. I don't know why it bothered everyone about it, maybe it's because of that PLs crap which is stupid since Toriyama himself doesn't even care about it yet we're supposed to think about it? Just like the DeathBattle said, power levels are shown how X character power is incredible and not to analyze it.
 

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I'm gonna list my pro and cons for the anime right now,pros+black in the anime -this :rumoosh ,+at times the battle are really entertaining along with filler episode cons-theres way to many inconsistency-a times is very dull-And​the fact the show still haven't the Eoz, there's more pro and cons in DBS but I'm not gonna list them
 

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It has low tier worth on a critical scale, though it's one of the few shit series that I actually find myself enjoying.

On it's positive side, the development of the secondary cast is quite good and it's entertaining to see that skill plays more of a factor in battle than it did in Z. Some of the new characters have OK designs too, I guess. It's plot lines are at least far less of a recycling of past ideas than GT was if you look at the first two arcs as honest remakes rather than the blatant ripoffs that all GT Arcs ended up being.

As for the wave of cons, for starters, there's the powerscaling being bullshit, as anyone can be as strong as anyone just because to the point it's almost as inconsistent as the silliness of post-Soul Society Bleach. In fact, many of the arcs are such trainwrecks in either using cheap plot devices or having a poor execution, such as being yet another series to jump on the bandwagon of the bane of good writing that are time resets and time travel paradoxes. The execution of the Future Trunks Arc's finale in particular was the lowest point of Super's writing, with an inconsistent power scale in the manga and a poor execution of the fight in the anime, coupled with a time reset ending.
Speaking of which, such fake tension is the main thing that makes Super a cashgrab. Being set at a point that has to lead to the events of the manga's finale (unless that's retconned), the entirety of the story has no tension due to prequel-syndrome, as we know the U7 characters will all survive one way or another. Even though they had cheap plot devices since the start, each arc still had enough tension in DB and Z with villains who would wipe out a large percentage of the cast and make things look hopeless. Now, it seems a miracle for there to be even one major casualty per arc for the U7 fighters.
Even the previous pro about characterization isn't perfect, as for many characters, Super just exaggerates single traits and turns them into one note characters. Chi Chi's always wanting Goten to study like Gohan and is usually mad at events going on, Roshi is always perverted and not as much of the wise master he once was, Boo is now a selfish glutton and most of all, Goku's naivete and lack of general intelligence is as overblown as it was in GT. Even the new cast have become more one note over time, such as Beerus seeming to not care about much other than food.
 

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It seems everyone enjoyed Super but hate its inconsistencies which is normal in most of entertainment shows. Also, this is Toei's product where inconsistency is a thing. :toei
 
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