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Goku-Black in his regular state, pre-Zenkai.
Who wins?
Who wins?
Less than 10%Captain Cadaver said:Goku and Vegeta's lower forms have obviously become vastly stronger given Base Goku can fight off someone who can take down 10% SSB Vegeta and someone roughly equal to SS2 Vegeta like SSJ Black wasn't oneshotted by his SSB form. Base Black oneshots.
Considering in the manga Beerus doesn't bother bringing up Goku surpassing Freeza until after he uses SS2, it's probably best to treat the Freeza > Base Goku statement with little value as to avoid any problems. Assuming Beerus was basing it purely on appearances due to seeing SSJ Goku VS Freeza is probably the best in terms of keeping things consistent.Pyro said:That would make Kid Boo only ~50x stronger than 100% Freeza, assuming he's not much weaker than SSJ Goku (since we didn't see their fight) and Base Goku ~ 100% Freeza.