Masenko blast amp

[SSJ2]

What amplification do you think Gohan's 2800 Masenko had? Was enraged Gohan 2800, or was the Masenko?

 

[GSM123]

I'm pretty sure Vegeta yells his BP is 2,800 before he charges the Masenko. Would be grateful if someone posted the scans to confirm it.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I'm pretty sure Vegeta yells his BP is 2,800 before he charges the Masenko. Would be grateful if someone posted the scans to confirm it.

Spoiler

 

[withheldforprivacy]

1.33x

 

[GSM123]

Spoiler

Thanks, CC. So the number was given right before Gohan fired it, 2,800 is the number for the Masenko.

I'd give Base enraged Gohan a 2,400. He's definitely stronger than Piccolo based on the way he kicked Nappa.

 

[SSJ2]

I like that ^.

Implementing that to my BP list

 

[p123]

~1.25x

Masenko 2,800
Gohan 2,250
Piccolo 2,000

Gohan's amp ain't shit in Saiyan and Freeza Saga, but it's something.

 

[ahill1]

1.14x

 

[p123]

Nah man, no way. That's Wolf Fang Fist level.

 

[GSM123]

So throwing a few punches and kicks is an amplfied atack?

 

[p123]

Yes, it's a technique that raises his power/speed. Sort of like Kaioken.

 

[GSM123]

He doesn't even know how to control Ki and is flabbergasted by Roshi being able to do so. It's more an effort thing for me.

 

[p123]

Call it what you want, it increases his speed/power. It's an amplification on top of his current power.

 

[GSM123]

I don't think it's worth it to argue further here. We are not changing each other's povs here soon.

 

[p123]

Factually you are wrong here though. Look at Jackie Chun's reaction to Wolf Fang Fist. It shocks Jackie and then Jackie has to drastically up his effort. So, I think you are just making shit up to make your minimalist amplifiers work, which I'm not buying.

 

[GSM123]

I'm not even going with the low amps anymore, so saying i'm being a minimalist means nothing here.

Post the scans and/or statements of Roshi's reaction.

 

[p123]

Looks like that's your job. Not my fault you are unaware of this. Do your homework dude.

 

[GSM123]

It's your homework to show the scans dude. You're the one trying to prove a point here, not me.

I'm checking it anyway since it would be retarded to fight over who should post the scans.

 

[p123]

You are the one trying to prove the point that goes against the status quo. Pretty much everyone is on board and understands that Wolf Fang Fist speeds Yamcha up. It's not my fault you are unaware of the status quo. If I were presenting some wildly new point of view, the onus would be on me. Seeing as this is the norm, it's on you.

 

[GSM123]

Spoiler

Doesn't seem like anything special. He's just shown reaction to it and then dodging it.

And you still haven't responded me: How can Yamcha amplify his power if he doesn't even know what's Ki yet? They can definitely suppress to some degree, but amplified attacks are still astonishing by this point.
Chapter: 14, P8.1-2
Gyuumao: “H-h-here it comes! Lord Muten Roshi’s ‘Kamehameha’!”
Puar: “In-incredible! Lord Yamcha, what the heck is the ‘Kamehameha’…?!”
Yamcha: “The ‘Kamehameha’…! It’s Muten Roshi’s grand technique, which is said to condense the latent energy within his b-body, and fire it out in one burst…! To think that I’d be able to see it with my own eyes…!”

According to Yamcha, condensing your own energy into one burst is something he never even believed he would see one day. That implies not even the Kamehameha itself is amplified, so the Wolf Fang Fist definitely isn't. The main difference here is the type of attack. The Wolf Fang fist is a quick sequence of devastating attacks, the Kamehameha is pure energy fired in one swift blast. It's like comparing a punch, a sequence of hits on vital points and fire. Even if they all have the same mechanical energy, it's gonna do a completely different type of damage.