Mention the most powerful and least powerful character that can belong in each category.

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Mention the most powerful and least powerful character that can belong in each category. For example:

Great City Level:

Minor Power: Piccolo Daimao
Greater Power: Tenshinhan (TB23).

  Here are the categories:

Street Level:
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Wall Level:
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Small Building Level:
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Building Level:
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Large Building Level:
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

City Block Level (Low):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

City Block Level (Mid):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

City Block Level (High):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Town Level (Low):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Town Level (Mid):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Town Level (High): Small City Level (not legit city busting, but too high to simply be labeled "town level"):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Small City Level (not legit city busting, but too high to simply be labeled "town level"):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

City Level (Low):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

City Level (Mid):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

City Level (High):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Small Island Level (not legit island busting, but too high to simply be labeled "city level"):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Island Level (Low):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Island Level (Mid):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Island Level (High):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Small Country Level:
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Country Level (Low):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Country Level (Mid):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Country Level (High):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Continent Level (Low):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Continent Level (Mid):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Continent Level (High):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Moon/Planetoid Level (Low):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Moon/Planetoid Level (Mid):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Moon/Planetoid Level (High):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Small Planet Level (Low):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Small Planet Level (Mid):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Small Planet Level (High):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Planet Level (Low):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Planet Level (Mid):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Planet Level (High):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Large Planet Level (Low):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Large Planet Level (Mid):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Large Planet Level (High):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Small Start Level (Low):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Small Start Level (Mid):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Small Start Level (High):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Start Level (Low):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Start Level (Mid):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Start Level (High):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Large Start Level (Low):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Large Start Level (Mid):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Large Start Level (High):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Solar System Level (Low):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Solar System Level (Mid):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Solar System Level (High):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Small Galaxy Level (Low):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Small Galaxy Level (Mid):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Small Galaxy Level (High):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Galaxy Level (Low):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Galaxy Level (Mid):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Galaxy Level (High):
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Multi Galaxy Level:
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Small Universe Level:
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Universe Level:
Minor Power:
Greater Power:

Multiverse Level:
Minor Power: Zeno.

Fill as many spaces as you can in Minor Power and Greater Power. Only those who can, do not feel obliged to fill everything.

https://www.outskirtsbattledomewiki.com/index.php/13-general-obd-terms/160-comprehensive-energy-scale
 

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Just answer what you know, do not feel obligated to answer everything. I need your help.
 

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King Piccolo: City buster

Nappa: Country level?

Vegeta: Planet buster

Super Perfect Cell: Solar System buster

SS3 Goku: Destroyed at least 10th population of earth so I guess continent?

Vegito and Boo: Galaxy buster

Anime Boohan: Universal buster

SSG Goku and Beerus: Multiverse buster I guess?
 

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Thank you very much, I have:

City Level: Piccolo Daimao.

Island Level: Piccolo (TB23).

Continent Level: Raditz.

Planet Level: Vegeta (Arc Saiyajin).

Start Level: Perfect Cell.

System Solar Level: Gotenks SSJ (Post).

Galaxy Level: Omega Yi Xing Long.

Universe Level: Golden Freezer (Arc Resurrection of Freezer).

Multiverse Level: Zen'o.
 

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Maybe you are right.

  Who thinks the rest?
 

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Fearless Instinct said:
The rest are fine and BoG SSG Goku is probably a universal buster first.

I have it as a Half Universe Destroyer, considering that it took 2 strokes of Goku SSJG and Beerus to destroy the Universe.
 

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Street Level - Too difficult to say since the weakest superhuman characters are pretty borderline between Street and Wall level due to some inconsistent feats.

Wall Level
Low End - Initial Yamcha based on his Rogafufuken against Goku unless assuming it was retconned, in which case it would be no lower than Giran.
High End - Maybe 21st TB Kuririn

Small Building Level
Low End - Goku's leap against Namu was a Small Building level feat, so most likely Namu.
High End - Probably someone far above 21st TB Goku but on the same tier. Let's say Mummy is the high end.

Large Building Level
Low End - #8 punching White across the horizon was a feat of this calibre, so #8 is the low end.
High End - No characters presented feats beyond this tier until Daimao beyond amplified attacks, so Pre-Choshinsui Goku.

City Block Level - Maybe Less than 50% Old Daimao via scaling.

Multi-City Block Level - 22nd TB Tenshinhan's Kikoho

Small City Level
Low End - Roshi's Max Power Kamehameha. The destruction of Mount Fry Pan was a feat of this level.
High End - Initial Prime Daimao since he needed some effort to destroy a fairly small city.

City Level
Low End - FP Prime Piccolo Daimao
High End - Either 23rd TB Tenshinhan or Mr. Popo

Small Island Level - Kami and Semi-Finals Majunior.

Island Level - 23rd TB Goku & Piccolo

Small Country Level - Possibly 23rd TB Goku's Super Kamehameha/Piccolo's Super Explosive Wave since the latter raised Papaya Island, which is shown and stated in guidebooks to be a very large island.

Country Level - Raditz if assuming Piccolo's Moon Bust was an outlier

Continent Level - Maybe Post-Kaio Goku via scaling if assuming what's mentioned above.

Small Planet Level - Piccolo's Moon Bust if assuming it not to be an outlier.

Planet Level - Saibaimen/Raditz if assuming the above. Vegeta's Gyrarikku Ho if not.

Large Planet Level
Low End - 1st form Freeza
High End - SSJ Namek Goku or Mecha Freeza

Small Star Level
Low End - SSJ Trunks (VS Freeza) seeing as how Freeza surviving Namek's explosion was a Small Star level durability feat.
High End - One of the Cell Game high tiers such as MSSJ Goku or Gohan

Star Level
Low End - Super Perfect Cell if not taking his Solar System statement at face value.
High End - DBZ Top Tiers such as Vegetto if assuming the above.

Solar System Level
Low End - SPC if taking his statement at face value.
High End - DBZ Top Tiers and GT characters prior to Super Vegeta-Baby.

Multi-Solar System Level
Low End - Anime Pure Boo due to his feat of ravaging a galaxy in a short amount of time, a feat that applies to SSJ Vegetto and anyone in GT above him.
High End - SS4 Goku at his limits or Post-Absorptions Super #17.

Galaxy Level
Low End - Yi Xing Long given the statement from BT3 about him being a Galaxy Buster.
High End - SS4 Gogeta

Multi-Galaxy/Small Universe Level
Low End - Anyone somewhat relevant to Post-God Base Goku based on his performance against Hit (eg. Botamo)
High End - Likely someone around Post-God SS3 tier, such as ToP #17.

Universe Level
Low End - Anyone relevant to SSG tier.
High End - Daishinkan (Manga-wise) Likely Genki Trunks (Anime-wise)

Universe+ Level (physical universe + space/time continuum)
Low End - Infinite Zamasu
High End -Anime Daishinken

Multiverse Level - Zen-Oh
 

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Street Level - Too difficult to say since the weakest superhuman characters are pretty borderline between Street and Wall level due to some inconsistent feats.

Wall Level
Low End - Initial Yamcha based on his Rogafufuken against Goku unless assuming it was retconned, in which case it would be no lower than Giran.
High End - Maybe 21st TB Kuririn

Small Building Level
Low End - Goku's leap against Namu was a Small Building level feat, so most likely Namu.
High End - Probably someone on far above 21st TB Goku but on the same tier. Let's say Mummy is the high end.

Large Building Level
Low End - #8 punching White across the horizon was the horizon was a feat of this calibre, so #8 is the low end.
High End - No characters presented feats beyond this tier until Daimao beyond amplified attacks, so Pre-Choshinsui Goku.

City Block Level - Maybe Less than 50% Old Daimao via scaling.

Multi-City Block Level - 22nd TB Tenshinhan's Kikoho

Small City Level
Low End - Roshi's Max Power Kamehameha. The destruction of Mount Fry Pan was a feat of this level.
High End - Initial Prime Daimao since he needed some effort to destroy a fairly small city.

City Level
Low End - FP Prime Piccolo Daimao
High End - Either 23rd TB Tenshinhan or Mr. Popo

Small Island Level - Kami and Semi-Finals Majunior.

Island Level - 23rd TB Goku & Piccolo

Small Country Level - Possibly 23rd TB Goku's Super Kamehameha/Piccolo's Super Explosive Wave since the latter raised Papaya Island, which is shown and stated in guidebooks to be a very large island.

Country Level - Raditz if assuming Piccolo's Moon Bust was an outlier

Continent Level - Maybe Post-Kaio Goku via scaling if assuming what's mentioned above.

Small Planet Level - Piccolo's Moon Bust if assuming it not to be an outlier.

Planet Level - Saibaimen/Raditz if assuming the above. Vegeta's Gyrarikku Ho if not.

Large Planet Level
Low End - 1st form Freeza
High End - SSJ Namek Goku or Mecha Freeza

Small Star Level
Low End - SSJ Trunks (VS Freeza) seeing as how Freeza surviving Namek's explosion was a Small Star level durability feat.
High End - One of the Cell Game high tiers such as MSSJ Goku or Gohan

Star Level
Low End - Super Perfect Cell if not taking his Solar System statement at face value.
High End - DBZ Top Tiers such as Vegetto if assuming the above.

Solar System Level
Low End - SPC if taking his statement at face value.
High End - DBZ Top Tiers and GT characters prior to Super Vegeta-Baby.

Multi-Solar System Level
Low End - Anime Pure Boo due to his feat of ravaging a galaxy in a short amount of time, a feat that applies to SSJ Vegetto and anyone in GT above him.
High End - SS4 Goku at his limits or Post-Absorptions Super #17.

Galaxy Level
Low End - Yi Xing Long given the statement from BT3 about him being a Galaxy Buster.
High End - SS4 Gogeta

Multi-Galaxy/Small Universe Level
Low End - Anyone somewhat relevant to Post-God Base Goku based on his performance against Hit (eg. Botamo)
High End - Likely someone around Post-God SS3 tier, such as ToP #17.

Universe Level
Low End - Anyone relevant to SSG tier.
High End - Daishinkan (Manga-wise) Likely Genki Trunks (Anime-wise)

Universe+ Level (physical universe + space/time continuum)
Low End - Infinite Zamasu
High End -Anime Daishinken

Multiverse Level - Zen-Oh

Excellent CC list. I will start creating a Power Levels list thanks to your answers.

  I have a question, do you think Kamisama (DBZ) is >>> Kamisama's (DB)? I ask because Kamisama recognized that all Humans had overcome him just when they left the Kamisama Temple. That statement was not made when the Humans clashed against the Saiyajins Illusion and in that chapter, at least Tenshinhan and Krillin were stronger than Goku and Piccolo (BoZ). I do not think that in that chapter Tenshinhan has been millions of times stronger than Chaoz.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Only anime-wise.

And following that logic, do you think I can have the Humans (BoZ) not being complete garbage for Goku and Piccolo (BoZ) in the Anime? That is, they would be more powerful than Goku (TB23)? You think it's possible?
 

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No. Anime filler would only affect scaling for Kami and the Z-Warriors in the middle of their training, not the latter prior to it.
 

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No. Anime filler would only affect scaling for Kami and the Z-Warriors in the middle of their training, not the latter prior to it.

It's true, only Kamisama (Anime) should not be complete garbage for Goku and Piccolo. That same Kamisama (Anime) must be equal to Kamisama (Movie 1).

  By the way, Mr. Popo is closer to Kamisama than to Tenshinhan (TB23)? Whereas Mr. Popo ate a Kamehameha from Goku.

  I've also been thinking about having Goku (Post Zenkai Tambourine)> Mutaito >>>>>>> Young Roshi> Young Tsuru> Goku (TB22). Since Mutaito seemed to be a tremendous better opportunity than his 2 disipulos together against Piccolo Daimao.
 

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Street Level - Too difficult to say since the weakest superhuman characters are pretty borderline between Street and Wall level due to some inconsistent feats.

Wall Level
Low End - Initial Yamcha based on his Rogafufuken against Goku unless assuming it was retconned, in which case it would be no lower than Giran.
High End - Maybe 21st TB Kuririn

Small Building Level
Low End - Goku's leap against Namu was a Small Building level feat, so most likely Namu.
High End - Probably someone far above 21st TB Goku but on the same tier. Let's say Mummy is the high end.

Large Building Level
Low End - #8 punching White across the horizon was a feat of this calibre, so #8 is the low end.
High End - No characters presented feats beyond this tier until Daimao beyond amplified attacks, so Pre-Choshinsui Goku.

City Block Level - Maybe Less than 50% Old Daimao via scaling.

Multi-City Block Level - 22nd TB Tenshinhan's Kikoho

Small City Level
Low End - Roshi's Max Power Kamehameha. The destruction of Mount Fry Pan was a feat of this level.
High End - Initial Prime Daimao since he needed some effort to destroy a fairly small city.

City Level
Low End - FP Prime Piccolo Daimao
High End - Either 23rd TB Tenshinhan or Mr. Popo

Small Island Level - Kami and Semi-Finals Majunior.

Island Level - 23rd TB Goku & Piccolo

Small Country Level - Possibly 23rd TB Goku's Super Kamehameha/Piccolo's Super Explosive Wave since the latter raised Papaya Island, which is shown and stated in guidebooks to be a very large island.

Country Level - Raditz if assuming Piccolo's Moon Bust was an outlier

Continent Level - Maybe Post-Kaio Goku via scaling if assuming what's mentioned above.

Small Planet Level - Piccolo's Moon Bust if assuming it not to be an outlier.

Planet Level - Saibaimen/Raditz if assuming the above. Vegeta's Gyrarikku Ho if not.

Large Planet Level
Low End - 1st form Freeza
High End - SSJ Namek Goku or Mecha Freeza

Small Star Level
Low End - SSJ Trunks (VS Freeza) seeing as how Freeza surviving Namek's explosion was a Small Star level durability feat.
High End - One of the Cell Game high tiers such as MSSJ Goku or Gohan

Star Level
Low End - Super Perfect Cell if not taking his Solar System statement at face value.
High End - DBZ Top Tiers such as Vegetto if assuming the above.

Solar System Level
Low End - SPC if taking his statement at face value.
High End - DBZ Top Tiers and GT characters prior to Super Vegeta-Baby.

Multi-Solar System Level
Low End - Anime Pure Boo due to his feat of ravaging a galaxy in a short amount of time, a feat that applies to SSJ Vegetto and anyone in GT above him.
High End - SS4 Goku at his limits or Post-Absorptions Super #17.

Galaxy Level
Low End - Yi Xing Long given the statement from BT3 about him being a Galaxy Buster.
High End - SS4 Gogeta

Multi-Galaxy/Small Universe Level
Low End - Anyone somewhat relevant to Post-God Base Goku based on his performance against Hit (eg. Botamo)
High End - Likely someone around Post-God SS3 tier, such as ToP #17.

Universe Level
Low End - Anyone relevant to SSG tier.
High End - Daishinkan (Manga-wise) Likely Genki Trunks (Anime-wise)

Universe+ Level (physical universe + space/time continuum)
Low End - Infinite Zamasu
High End -Anime Daishinken

Multiverse Level - Zen-Oh

And according to you, do you think that Piccolo's feat of destroying the Moon was atypical or not?

  And according to you, do you think SPC's Solar Kamehameha could effectively destroy the entire Solar System?
 

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-Mountain busting level: Goku post Baba Saga.
BODB/21st TB Roshi needs to buff to destroy a mountain and it is implied that Buffed Roshi is at Baba Saga Goku's
level in raw power. The moon is either an outlier or not bigger than a mountain and close enough to Earth to be
visible.


-Small City Busting Level: Old King Piccolo.

-Large City Busting Level: Young King Piccolo.

-Small Island Busting Level: Piccolo Jr 23rd TB.

-Large Island Busting Level: Raditz.

-Small Region Busting Level: Nappa.
He opened a bottomless crater. This must be equivalent to busting a small region.

-Large Region Busting Level: Scouter Vegeta.
I know he claimed he could destroy the whole Earth, but that was never proven, so I'll consider it just a cocky threat.

-Small Country Busting Level: Recoome.
He warped Namek's shape, which I consider equivalent to busting a small country.

-Large Country Busting Level: Ginyu.

-Continent/Moon Busting Level: 1st Form Freeza.
Planet Vegeta, which he destroyed, was probably as large as Real Life Moon, which is about as large as a continent of
Earth.


-Small Planet Busting Level: Vegeta post Dende.
I guess he could destroy at least a planet whose size is similar to ours, since Viz Piccolo was afraid that his blast
could be dangerous for Namek.


-Large Planet Busting Level: 4th Form Freeza (somewhere between 50% and No Hands Suppression).
He was at 50% of his power when he fired at Namek. Even though one can argue that he held back and he had lost power
after being hit by Spirit Bomb (which he recovered only after going 100%), he must have still been a lot higher than
Vegeta when he fired at Namek. So I guess we can say Namek is a giant planet, whose size is close to Jupiter's.


-Solar System Busting Level: Super Perfect Cell.

-Galaxy Busting Level: Beerus.

-Universe Busting Level: Zeno.
Assuming this is his power level and he does not destroy universes through some magical means.
 

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Merged withheld's topic as it was the exact same one as one recently active.

SIAD said:
And according to you, do you think that Piccolo's feat of destroying the Moon was atypical or not?
And according to you, do you think SPC's Solar Kamehameha could effectively destroy the entire Solar System?
Piccolo's feat is likely not an outlier. However, it's questionable if the density of the DB World's moon is anywhere near that of our's. After all, it has the lack of it for over 3 years after the 21st TB had no major effect on the environment such as tides, nor did the new one change the environment at all despite being seemingly far larger or closer than our moon.

As for SPC, I'd say he's indeed Solar System level as confirmed by the guidebooks and other sources as well as fitting with the general sense of scale implied for later villains in the anime canon.

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-Mountain busting level: Goku post Baba Saga.
Despite that Goku being in absolute awe and some fear at a Town level blast destroying the top of a mountain.
Also, mountain level is generally treat as being above City level, depending on the general size of the mountain. Roshi's mountain bust is only Small City level and Post-Karin Goku doesn't scale from that with the implications of Goku > Manly GAINZ Roshi being very weak and Tenshithands' Kikoho at the 22nd TB only being City Block or Multi-City Block level.

-Large Region Busting Level: Scouter Vegeta.
I know he claimed he could destroy the whole Earth, but that was never proven, so I'll consider it just a cocky threat.
He had no reason to be cocky when he was clearly acting on impulse and emotion. He had no reason to lie.
Also, the Galactic Patrol have a Planet busting missile yet were still scared of the Saiyans. There's no reason to go against the evidence of Vegeta's Gyarikku Ho being Planet level.
Actual evidence >> Headcanon

-Continent/Moon Busting Level: 1st Form Freeza.
Planet Vegeta, which he destroyed, was probably as large as Real Life Moon, which is about as large as a continent of
Earth.
Planet Vegeta has 10x the gravity of Earth and the images shown of it display it as being at least the size of Earth. It was a Large Planet level feat or at the very least, Planet level.

-Galaxy Busting Level: Beerus.
The sheer impact of SSG Galu and Beerus trading punches was enough that they would've destroyed all of Universe 7 had the fight continued (manga) or Goku not countered this (anime). That's including not only a universe in size comparable to our own as confirmed by Jaco debunking the myth that there were only 4 Galaxies, but the Otherworld and Hell. The feat was without a doubt Universe level, or at least Multi-Galaxy level.
Anime-wise, Beerus would be Universe+ level (Universe + Space/Time Continuum) since he should be stronger than Infinite Zamasu since Initial Jiren was. Infinite Zamasu had come close to being one with the universe and his very presence had quickly started affecting both of the most prominent U7 timelines.
 

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1. Despite that Goku being in absolute awe and some fear at a Town level blast destroying the top of a mountain.

2. Post-Karin Goku doesn't scale from that with the implications of Goku > Manly GAINZ Roshi being very weak

3. Tenshithands' Kikoho at the 22nd TB only being City Block or Multi-City Block level.

4. He had no reason to be cocky when he was clearly acting on impulse and emotion. He had no reason to lie.

5. The Galactic Patrol have a Planet busting missile yet were still scared of the Saiyans. There's no reason to go against the evidence of Vegeta's Gyarikku Ho being Planet level.

6. Planet Vegeta has 10x the gravity of Earth and the images shown of it display it as being at least the size of Earth. It was a Large Planet level feat or at the very least, Planet level.

1. Remind me when that happened.

2. Roshi said Baba Saga Goku would surpass him if he got any stronger. What I make of that is Baba Goku~Buffed Roshi.

3. We don't know how deep the crater opened by Kikoho was. All we know was that 'one couldn't even begin to
compare it to KHH (mountain level)'. So, for consistency sake, I'll place it at most at Small City level (maybe Tien
could be a threat to Old Piccolo with that).

4. He overestimated his abilities. Or he was trying to provoke Goku so that he wouldn't dodge.

5. What is Galactic Patrol? Are you referring to Jaco from Super? This character might as well remain in his own gag manga
series.

6. I don't recall that picture, but it's obviously anime filler.
 

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1. Remind me when that happened.
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2. Roshi said Baba Saga Goku would surpass him if he got any stronger. What I make of that is Baba Goku~Buffed Roshi.
He clearly stated Goku had surpassed him when Goku oneshotted Mummy. We also never saw Roshi use his Max Power state for anything but destroying stationary objects, so we can infer he can't use it effectively in battle which is supported by secondary sources such as video games. Hardly something worth using as a benchmark for another fighter.

3. We don't know how deep the crater opened by Kikoho was. All we know was that 'one couldn't even begin to compare it to KHH (mountain level)'. So, for consistency sake, I'll place it at most at Small City level (maybe Tien could be a threat to Old Piccolo with that).
Roshi's statement seemed to be referring to comparing the general amp of the Kikoho and Kamehameha rather than Ten's Kikoho and his own Kamehameha. We aren't shown the attack being anything higher than Multi-City Block level, so there's no concrete reason to place Ten's Kikoho higher than Roshi's mountain bust.

4. He overestimated his abilities. Or he was trying to provoke Goku so that he wouldn't dodge.
Supported by?

5. What is Galactic Patrol? Are you referring to Jaco from Super? This character might as well remain in his own gag manga series.
So, your counter-argument is just pretending any evidence that goes against your headcanon doesn't exist or matter?
Not that I expected much better from you.

6. I don't recall that picture, but it's obviously anime filler.
Assuming you're talking about Planet Vegeta, that is still more evidence than your assumptions of it being any less than shown.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
1. He clearly stated Goku had surpassed him when Goku oneshotted Mummy. We also never saw Roshi use his Max Power state for anything but destroying stationary objects, so we can infer he can't use it effectively in battle which is supported by secondary sources such as video games. Hardly something worth using as a benchmark for another fighter.

2. We aren't shown the attack being anything higher than Multi-City Block level, so there's no concrete reason to place Ten's Kikoho higher than Roshi's mountain bust.

3. So, your counter-argument is just pretending any evidence that goes against your headcanon doesn't exist or matter?
Not that I expected much better from you.

1. Saying that Baba Saga Goku needed to train more to surpass him makes zero sense if he was referring to his non buffed
state. That's why I treat that statement as good evidence about where to place Buffed Roshi.

2. I treat Kikoho as an extremely precise attack that channels its power vertically. So, depending on the depth of the
crater, it can be a feat much greater than just wiping out a few square meters of land.

3. Considering Jaco has his own series, I think he's not consistent with Dragonball rules (like Arale).
 
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