Movie 3 Gohan vs Cacao/Daiz/Almond

Pakl

High Class Warrior
Member
Joined
Jun 1, 2015
Messages
3,514
Age
28
We know Gohan was stronger than the twins but how does he fare against the rest? Post your power levels too.
 

Captain Cadaver

Zeta Elite
Retired Staff
Joined
May 31, 2015
Messages
27,967
There's no reason to doubt the battle powers they're given in the Movie 3 pamphlet, in which Cacao, Daizu and Amond are placed at 13k, 8.4k and 9.1k respectively. That said, Cacao would stomp Gohan, Gohan would win against Daizu and Amond's outcome depends on whether or not his superior skill and techniques can make up for his disadvantage in power.
 

Pakl

High Class Warrior
Member
Joined
Jun 1, 2015
Messages
3,514
Age
28
Captain Cadaver said:
There's no reason to doubt the battle powers they're given in the Movie 3 pamphlet, in which Cacao, Daizu and Amond are placed at 13k, 8.4k and 9.1k respectively. That said, Cacao would stomp Gohan, Gohan would win against Daizu and Amond's outcome depends on whether or not his superior skill and techniques can make up for his disadvantage in power.

Actually the 13k is for Daiz as it was an error in rhe cards that was fixed below. Still, there is to doubt it. Tullece being 19k is bullshit. Amond is second in command. He should be stronger than Daiz. 9.1k for Amond is too low. I mean, he is weaker than Gohan? That makes no sense. I think Gohan is only stronger than the twins. There is a reason he was shown beating just one of them.
 

Captain Cadaver

Zeta Elite
Retired Staff
Joined
May 31, 2015
Messages
27,967
Pakl said:
Actually the 13k is for Daiz as it was an error in rhe cards that was fixed below.
The Cardass version switched around Daizu and Cacao's battle powers, but that doesn't confirm it as a mistake for the pamphlet unless you have a source specifically saying so, considering there's just as much likelihood of the Cardass version being the one mistaken.

Still, there is to doubt it. Tullece being 19k is bullshit. Amond is second in command. He should be stronger than Daiz. 9.1k for Amond is too low.
Unlike Tullece's entry, the levels for everyone else contradict nothing. Amond's rank is irrelevant as supplementary material such as DBZ The World go over makes it apparent the skills that others possess is a main factor into Tullece recruiting them such as making Raisin and Rakasei his chief scientists. We are also showing with institutions such as the Red Ribbon Army that a higher rank doesn't mean something as simplistic as a greater power. General White's power is far inferior to Sergeant Metallic's, for example.

I mean, he is weaker than Gohan? That makes no sense.
Elaborate on why it makes no sense when it contradicts nothing. Tullece even expressed interest in Gohan's power.

I think Gohan is only stronger than the twins. There is a reason he was shown beating just one of them.
That would be a stretch to assume they were the only benchmark to compare himself to. If that were the case, there would also be a scene of him struggling against one of the other soldiers before Tullece arrived.
 

Pakl

High Class Warrior
Member
Joined
Jun 1, 2015
Messages
3,514
Age
28
Captain Cadaver said:
Pakl said:
Actually the 13k is for Daiz as it was an error in rhe cards that was fixed below.
The Cardass version switched around Daizu and Cacao's battle powers, but that doesn't confirm it as a mistake for the pamphlet unless you have a source specifically saying so, considering there's just as much likelihood of the Cardass version being the one mistaken.

Still, there is to doubt it. Tullece being 19k is bullshit. Amond is second in command. He should be stronger than Daiz. 9.1k for Amond is too low.
Unlike Tullece's entry, the levels for everyone else contradict nothing. Amond's rank is irrelevant as supplementary material such as DBZ The World go over makes it apparent the skills that others possess is a main factor into Tullece recruiting them such as making Raisin and Rakasei his chief scientists. We are also showing with institutions such as the Red Ribbon Army that a higher rank doesn't mean something as simplistic as a greater power. General White's power is far inferior to Sergeant Metallic's, for example.

I mean, he is weaker than Gohan? That makes no sense.
Elaborate on why it makes no sense when it contradicts nothing. Tullece even expressed interest in Gohan's power.

I think Gohan is only stronger than the twins. There is a reason he was shown beating just one of them.
That would be a stretch to assume they were the only benchmark to compare himself to. If that were the case, there would also be a scene of him struggling against one of the other soldiers before Tullece arrived.

https://www.kanzenshuu.com/battle-power/databook/

Well the notes say so.

But Amo d was standing in the middle. Its overall used to have the strongest member. Look at movie 5. Salza is in the middle when they attack Goku. Ginyu is in the middle of the Ginyu Foce.

Gohan being stronger than Amond who I consider the strongest makes no sense to me.

But that's the point. The movie only showed Gohan beating Rakasie. That was needed for Tullece to have interest in him. Him not fighting another one suggests he would not be able to beat him imo.
 

Captain Cadaver

Zeta Elite
Retired Staff
Joined
May 31, 2015
Messages
27,967
Pakl said:
But Amo d was standing in the middle. Its overall used to have the strongest member. Look at movie 5. Salza is in the middle when they attack Goku. Ginyu is in the middle of the Ginyu Foce.

Gohan being stronger than Amond who I consider the strongest makes no sense to me.
It makes no sense because you're basing your stance off meta-logic rather than using actual evidence. By that logic, we should assume Vegeta was the strongest character in Movie 7 because he was on the centre of the poster. or that this image makes Nappa the strongest of the Saiyan trio:
340

But that's the point. The movie only showed Gohan beating Rakasie. That was needed for Tullece to have interest in him. Him not fighting another one suggests he would not be able to beat him imo.
Yeah, in your opinion based on how you interpret a scene instead of more clear cut evidence. You're assuming this was the intent of the directors when it's far more likely they didn't overthink the sequences in such a manner. Unless you can use hard evidence to debunk what the guide says, there's no reason to believe it's inaccurate.
 

GSM123

Super Elite
Member
Joined
Mar 26, 2017
Messages
15,416
Age
22
Going with CC here. I rarely take these card numbers into account since they’re just card stats, but there isn’t much to go by here.
 

Latest profile posts

Listening to JFK talk about President Diem in South Vietnam two months before authorising his assassination is pretty insane.
Punpun is a bitch and is for bitches
Tell your friend to talk to someone he trusts, and if that does not work, seeing the "professional" is better than dying.
Top