Movie 8 Broly Vs Bio Broly

[Ultimate Cell]

Round 1 Movie 8 SS Broly. Round 2 LSSJ Broly

 

[Pyro]

M8 Broly wins both rounds. Bio-Broly is maybe on par with CG Goku, maybe a tad stronger if that.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Depends whether or not you believe Goten and Trunks were nerfed down to their filler selves in Movie 11 or not, given how they weren't presented as leagues above #18 in the film. If so, M8 SSJ Broly oneshots. If not, it could go either way in round 1, but stomps in round 2.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Takao Koyama said every movie villian is stronger than the former, so Bio Broly beats even M10 Broly here, let alone M8 Broly.

 

[Ultimate Cell]

Takao Koyama said every movie villian is stronger than the former, so Bio Broly beats even M10 Broly here, let alone M8 Broly.

Koyama is a Broly fantard. So unless you think SS Goten and Trunks were SS2 tier then Bio Broly> M10 can't work.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Beerus >> Broly > Any Z/GT character according to Koyama, so is the exception/debunk to his rule.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

And he's the writter of the movies. If he want Broly to be this strong, so be it.

And why can't Goten and Trunks be SSJ2 Tier? I mean SSJ3 Goku was stronger than Chou Gohan on Movie 13.

 

[Pyro]

Such pure garbage.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Bio Broly is so M8 Broly wins.

 

[CroMagnumDVH]

Bio-Broly is confirmed to be the strongest enemy Goten and Trunks faced, so Bio-Broly takes both rounds

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Bio-Broly is confirmed to be the strongest enemy Goten and Trunks faced, so Bio-Broly takes both rounds

When was this stated again? Can't seem to remember.

I wouldn't say this allows Bio-Broly to take both rounds, given they never truly fought against LSSJ Broly and the evidence for M10 SSJ Broly being close to his M8 LSSJ self is pretty weak.

 

[CroMagnumDVH]

Bio-Broly is confirmed to be the strongest enemy Goten and Trunks faced, so Bio-Broly takes both rounds

When was this stated again? Can't seem to remember.

I wouldn't say this allows Bio-Broly to take both rounds, given they never truly fought against LSSJ Broly and the evidence for M10 SSJ Broly being close to his M8 LSSJ self is pretty weak.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/takao-koyama-battle-of-gods-blog-post/

Takao Koyama states that each new villain is stronger than the last one in the movies, and he's the one who does the scenarios in each movie.

The official Bio-Broly DVD description states that he is the strongest Saiyan in history, and this includes anything from before In fact, Goten and Trunks thought they could beat Broly based on what they know from him before yet his power still trumped them (they didn't note him being weaker than before, but instead he was beating them despite them knowing Broly's previous power from Movie 10 and yet they believe they're superior to M10 Broly. Nothing contradicts that so we can't say they're wrong). Broly was in his LSsj form in movie 11 so there's nothing to suggest he's weaker:

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Takao Koyama also says that Each time Broly is brought back, he brings him back while escalating everyone's power, meaning Bio Broly is escalated being his Movie 10 counterpart (you could ignore Takao's biased opinion in the start):

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So Bio Broly > Movie 10 Broly is a very reasonable conclusion, more than anything else.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

That is some strong evidence with Goten and Trunks' confidence and the dvd statement. I wouldn't say Koyama's "each villain stronger than the last" holds weight though, given how not only do feats lean more towards M8 Broly > Bojack, but also Koyama's statements on Broly being the strongest prior to BoG contradict his claim.

 

[Pakl]

If anything Bio Broli proves M8 Broli is CG Goku level... Thos village guy took the blood sample of movie 8 Broli which should make Bio Broli in par with M8 Broli

The kids are also clearly a lot weaker than Gohan in the anime

 

[CroMagnumDVH]

That is some strong evidence with Goten and Trunks' confidence and the dvd statement. I wouldn't say Koyama's "each villain stronger than the last" holds weight though, given how not only do feats lean more towards M8 Broly > Bojack, but also Koyama's statements on Broly being the strongest prior to BoG contradict his claim.

Not necessarily though. Bojack doesn't need to have better feats to be above Broly since you could very well just scale him. Though Bojack was stated to have rioted throughout the entire southern, northern, eastern and western galaxies in a short time which is better than what Broly did. He even travelled into Earth in a very short time from a galactic distance. So Bojack > Broly M8 isn't contradicted much.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Not necessarily though. Bojack doesn't need to have better feats to be above Broly since you could very well just scale him. Though Bojack was stated to have rioted throughout the entire southern, northern, eastern and western galaxies in a short time which is better than what Broly did. He even travelled into Earth in a very short time from a galactic distance. So Bojack > Broly M8 isn't contradicted much.

Needing his henchmen to stomp SSJ Gohan with the latter momentarily holding his own is far less impressive than Broly steamrolling the entire cast, given there's no in-universe reason to suggest the M8 cast (aside from perhaps Gohan) are any different to their Cell Games selves and arguments for this are entirely fuelled by irrelevant meta logic.

 

[CroMagnumDVH]

Needing his henchmen to stomp SSJ Gohan with the latter momentarily holding his own is far less impressive than Broly steamrolling the entire cast, given there's no in-universe reason to suggest the M8 cast (aside from perhaps Gohan) are any different to their Cell Games selves and arguments for this are entirely fuelled by irrelevant meta logic.

The Movie cast are all different than their canon counterparts. No movie even applies to the canon continuity, and feats in movies surpass everything in canon, no comparison. Bojack didn't need his henchmen to beat Gohan, that's begging the question. Someone having henchmen fight doesn't in anyway mean he needs them to fight. Also, Broly shitstomps the Cell Saga feat-wise amd statement-wise.

 

[Pakl]

Not necessarily though. Bojack doesn't need to have better feats to be above Broly since you could very well just scale him. Though Bojack was stated to have rioted throughout the entire southern, northern, eastern and western galaxies in a short time which is better than what Broly did. He even travelled into Earth in a very short time from a galactic distance. So Bojack > Broly M8 isn't contradicted much.

Needing his henchmen to stomp SSJ Gohan with the latter momentarily holding his own is far less impressive than Broly steamrolling the entire cast, given there's no in-universe reason to suggest the M8 cast (aside from perhaps Gohan) are any different to their Cell Games selves and arguments for this are entirely fuelled by irrelevant meta logic.

What donyou mean there is no in universe reason?? Movies are alternative unuverse so tgey cant follow in universe logic... Also its stated fact M8 Vegeta and Trunks are 1st Post Rosat... Are you going to deny it?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

What donyou mean there is no in universe reason?? Movies are alternative unuverse so tgey cant follow in universe logic...

Then give a single logical reason as to why Goku's power would be any different from his Cell Games' self from the change in the timeline when entering the Rosat still seems to have been an inevitability.

Also its stated fact M8 Vegeta and Trunks are 1st Post Rosat... Are you going to deny it?

It isn't. That's simply your interpretation.

 

[Super Saiyan Overlord1007]

Organic/Alive/Original Broly takes it both rounds. I don't think the kids could beat SSJ Broly and together they were managing against Bio-Broly, Goten was taking him by himself for a short time in the final act of the movie. So yeah..M8 Broly should take this handily.