mssj blue vegito vs whis

[KyuubiAhri]

who wins this

 

[Pyro]

Vegetto would stomp Beerus if you're talking about Complete Super Saiyan Blue. Regular Blue Vegetto was already implied to be slightly stronger than Beerus, so giving him a huge power-up would be homicide.

 

[ahill1]

he is talking about whis bruh

 

[Pyro]

he is talking about whis bruh

:molest

Same thing applies.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I'd consider MSSB to be the manga equivalent of Kaioken Blue, unless the Galu VS Toppo fight in the manga proves otherwise, so I'd say it's power is double that of SSB. Vegetto stomps Whis before any sort of fatigue kicks in from what we've seen currently.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Plain child math/common sense: Vegetto stomps.
Plot: Whiss wins.

 

[Void]

CSSB Vegetto would have more than enough power to dispose of Whis, but would he be able to do it in 23 seconds before his fusion expires? That's the real question.

 

[Pyro]

I don't think KKBlue = CSSB makes numerical sense if Base Vegetto is above the individual Blues, which I think is pretty much implied.

 

[Future Warrior]

I don't think KKBlue = CSSB makes numerical sense if Base Vegetto is above the individual Blues, which I think is pretty much implied.

Vegetto Blue is far above Merged Zamasu anyways, so what's the problem?

 

[Pyro]

I don't think KKBlue = CSSB makes numerical sense if Base Vegetto is above the individual Blues, which I think is pretty much implied.

Vegetto Blue is far above Merged Zamasu anyways, so what's the problem?

The numbers. If CSSB is supposed have the same increase as Kaio-ken, then the fuck? A 2x boost? Even 10x wouldn't make sense!

 

[ahill1]

I don't think KKBlue = CSSB makes numerical sense if Base Vegetto is above the individual Blues, which I think is pretty much implied.

Vegetto Blue is far above Merged Zamasu anyways, so what's the problem?

The numbers. If CSSB is supposed have the same increase as Kaio-ken, then the fuck? A 2x boost? Even 10x wouldn't make sense!

Why not? You can't fit Vegetto Blue > Merged Zamasu > base Vegetto in a 2x boost?

 

[Pyro]

I can, but it's retarded.

 

[Void]

Vegetto Blue is far above Merged Zamasu anyways, so what's the problem?

The numbers. If CSSB is supposed have the same increase as Kaio-ken, then the fuck? A 2x boost? Even 10x wouldn't make sense!

Why not? You can't fit Vegetto Blue > Merged Zamasu > base Vegetto in a 2x boost?

Going off of the new chapter leaks, CSSB Vegeta ~ CSSB Goku, and CSSB Goku matched Merged Zamas.
CSSB Vegeta ends up getting one shotted by Beerus, and if SSB Vegetto is >= Beerus that means Blue Vegetto is way, way ahead of Merged Zamas, which would also lead me to believe that CSSB Vegetto would be a monster capable of taking Whis as far as power goes.

 

[ahill1]

I can, but it's retarded.

Ohh, I kind of got things mixed up in my earlier post. If the CSSJB boost over SSJB is 2x, then we'd have Blue Goku getting 2x stronger and going from below base Vegetto to = Merged Zamasu.

Merged Zamasu = CSSJB > base Vegetto > SSJB

So that's what you think it's retarded to fit under a 2x boost? Why?

 

[ahill1]

The numbers. If CSSB is supposed have the same increase as Kaio-ken, then the fuck? A 2x boost? Even 10x wouldn't make sense!

Why not? You can't fit Vegetto Blue > Merged Zamasu > base Vegetto in a 2x boost?

Going off of the new chapter leaks, CSSB Vegeta ~ CSSB Goku, and CSSB Goku matched Merged Zamas.
CSSB Vegeta ends up getting one shotted by Beerus, and if SSB Vegetto is >= Beerus that means Blue Vegetto is way, way ahead of Merged Zamas, which would also lead me to believe that CSSB Vegetto would be a monster capable of taking Whis as far as power goes.

Not seeing how that hurts the 2x multiplier... all that shows is that Vegetto Blue >>> Merged Zamasu.

 

[Void]

More like >>>>>>

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I don't think KKBlue = CSSB makes numerical sense if Base Vegetto is above the individual Blues, which I think is pretty much implied.

1. That's debatable. Zamasu's damage from Base Vegetto was most likely due to both being off-guard and not expecting to face anything beyond a weakened Base Goku & Vegeta. I don't think him saying he still wouldn't need an hour says much, considering it still just tells us Base Vegetto is still far below Merged Zamasu.
2. As others have already said, there's nothing to say SSB Vegetto can't be that far ahead of Zamasu, since he was treating him the same as he did Boo.

 

[Future Warrior]

1. That's debatable. Zamasu's damage from Base Vegetto was most likely due to both being off-guard and not expecting to face anything beyond a weakened Base Goku & Vegeta. I don't think him saying he still wouldn't need an hour says much, considering it still just tells us Base Vegetto is still far below Merged Zamasu.

He says ''I guess one hour will be enough for me to defeat you'' to Base Vegetto while talking down to the individual SSB's so much that he even called their form ''outdated''. If Base Vegetto wasn't any stronger than Blue, Zamasu wouldn't need more than 2 minutes to beat him based on how easily he handled Goku and Vegeta. MZ seems to consider Base Vegetto to be a formidable challenge compared to what he previously had been fighting, and was shocked to find out that he can transform further. It's fine if you don't get that impression, but to me it implies that Vegetto is at the very least decently above Goku and Vegeta Blue.

 

[Pyro]

It would also line up with the original manga, although we didn't get much to work with for Base Vegetto there.

Base Galu - 1
SSJ Galu - 50
SSJ2 Galu - 100
SSJ3 Goku - 400
SSG Galu - 800
SSB Galu - 1,600
CSSB Galu - 3,200

Merged Zamasu - 3,200

Base Vegetto - 2,500
SSJ Vegetto - 125,000
SSB Vegetto - 4,000,000

1,250x gap between SSB Vegetto and Merged Zamasu.

Dude should've just went Super Saiyan 1 and he would've had more than enough time to throttle Zammy.

 

[Future Warrior]

Fusion has lower multipliers...