MSSJ Cg Gohan VS Unweighted Pikon (otherworld tourny)

[Zippy]

This is not the super inconsistent Pikon that booty smacked SPC this is the Pikon that had trouble against MSSJ Goku.
Also Gohan is going to fight seriously.
This isn't a tournament so no ring out.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Gohan tears him apart as long as he's not in pacifist mode. Paikuhan's advantage over Goku was minimal, so unless you believed Goku made big gains in that timeframe that'd likely equate to half his gains in 7 years, then there's no way Paikuhan can challenge Gohan.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Two ways to view Pikkon:
-MSSJ level and beat a suppressed SPC with an off guard amplified attack.
-SSJ2 level and Goku was invisibly using kaioken during their match.

 

[Zippy]

Gohan tears him apart as long as he's not in pacifist mode. Paikuhan's advantage over Goku was minimal, so unless you believed Goku made big gains in that timeframe that'd likely equate to half his gains in 7 years, then there's no way Paikuhan can challenge Gohan.

In percentage.
Can you tell me the gap you have for MSSJ Goku/UN weighted Pikon and MSSJ Goku/ MSSJ Gohan?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I go with what was once found out, so Paikuhan is way above SPC even with weights on.

He wins this, in my opinion.

 

[Zippy]

I go with what was once found out, so Paikuhan is way above SPC even with weights on.

He wins this, in my opinion.

<del>Follow my rules son</del> the weighted Pikon in otherworld tourny was trading blows with base Goku though IIRC.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I go with what was once found out, so Paikuhan is way above SPC even with weights on.

He wins this, in my opinion.

<del>Follow my rules son</del> the weighted Pikon in otherworld tourny was trading blows with base Goku though IIRC.

son,

it's all explained here:

http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8387257/1/

Toei just haxed up Goku, at-least that makes sense for now.

 

[Zippy]

I go with what was once found out, so Paikuhan is way above SPC even with weights on.

He wins this, in my opinion.

<del>Follow my rules son</del> the weighted Pikon in otherworld tourny was trading blows with base Goku though IIRC.

son,

it's all explained here:

http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8387257/1/

Toei just haxed up Goku, at-least that makes sense for now.

I swear toei expects AT to give Goku a haxed powerup every season

 

[Fantastische Hure]

<del>Follow my rules son</del> the weighted Pikon in otherworld tourny was trading blows with base Goku though IIRC.

son,

it's all explained here:

http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8387257/1/

Toei just haxed up Goku, at-least that makes sense for now.

I swear toei expects AT to give Goku a haxed powerup every season

It is what it is.

It's Toei, so it's not that hard to believe, they'll do anything to make Goku the most powerful.

And it's Toei they are inconsistent anyways, l0l.

 

[Super Saiyan Overlord1007]

I give this to Pikkon. I put him inbetween Cell Games Goku and Buu Saga Goku which is a good amount above Gohan.

Buu SSJ Goku: 20
Pikkon: 15
CG SSJ Gohan: 12.5
CG SSJ Goku: 10

 

[Captain Cadaver]

In percentage.
Can you tell me the gap you have for MSSJ Goku/UN weighted Pikon and MSSJ Goku/ MSSJ Gohan?

SSJ Goku - 10
SSJ Gohan - 14
Unweighted Paikuhan - 10.5

Paikuhan's advantage over Goku seemed to be barely noticeable, whereas Gohan believed Goku was holding back when comparing his dad to himself, along with several other statements that place a large gap between the two.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Gohan destroy him easily. From what I've remember, Pikkon was winning due to his abilities and not his power.

 

[Whipedkillsmiled]

Pikon is skilled. So it will not be easy in my opinion.
However, in the end Gohan will win.

<del>Because in eng dub ox king said Gohan can not loose because he is Goku's son.</del>

 

[withheldforprivacy]

In percentage.
Can you tell me the gap you have for MSSJ Goku/UN weighted Pikon and MSSJ Goku/ MSSJ Gohan?

SSJ Goku - 10
SSJ Gohan - 14
Unweighted Paikuhan - 10.5

Paikuhan's advantage over Goku seemed to be barely noticeable, whereas Gohan believed Goku was holding back when comparing his dad to himself, along with several other statements that place a large gap between the two.

State your evidence of MSSJ Father/Son having a large gap at Cell Games.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Practically every power statement made about Gohan during the Cell Games, but here's a few of the main, obvious ones.

<div class='spoiler_toggle'>Spoiler: click to toggle</div><div class="spoiler" style="display:none;">
Chapter: 403 (DBZ 209), P1.1-3
Context: Goku talking to Cell about Cell's next opponent (ie Gohan)
Goku: “The Cell Games will probably end with this next match. Since if he loses, there won’t be anyone else who could win against you…[ ] But from fighting you just now, I think this guy really can beat you after all."

Chapter: 402 (DBZ 208), P6.5, P7.1-6
Context: after Goku asks Gohan to be the next one to fight Cell
Goku: “In the Room of Spirit and Time, the dormant power sealed away deep, deep inside him began to be released. Why don’t we try asking him? How about it, Gohan? Did you think that dad and Cell’s fight just now was too incredible and you couldn’t keep up?â€￾
Gohan: “N-no, I didn’t think so…But neither of you were fighting all-out, right…!?â€￾
Goku: “I don’t know about Cell, but I was going all-out. So in other words, to you it felt like I was holding back?â€￾

Chapter: 404 (DBZ 210), P2.3-4
Context: after Gohan powers up
Vegeta: “That brat…How did he get such a gigantic battle power?…This is impossible…!â€￾
Cell: “Looks like what Son Goku said wasn’t a complete bluff…But it seems he overstated things a little when he said you could defeat me…â€￾</div>

 

[GokhanDBZfan]

Paikuhan stomp him.

 

[DBZAOTA482]

Gohan gets rekted. He lacks Goku's experience and I don't think Gohan was THAT far ahead of him.

 

[Victorious]

Pikkon is roughly the level Cell beat Goku at IMO. That same Cell couldnt land a punch on Gohan.

 

[Zippy]

Pikkon is roughly the level Cell beat Goku at IMO. That same Cell couldnt land a punch on Gohan.

Oh, I never thought of that. It makes a lot of sense considering their similar feats. I.e fighting goku with advantage.

 

[SuperGogeta]

Why would Goku get stronger in that short lapse of Time?
SSJ Gohan wins , Pikkon had trouble with Goku , i got a big gap between Both Gohan and his father.