MSSJ multiplier

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Vote and explain.

 

[Zippy]

Its just a mastered version of the same old SSJ no extra modifications just learning to use it without any tolls so I say 50x (which is what I use for SSJ aswell ofc)

 

[Southern Gothic]

Same as SSJ. It's just better over a longer period of use.

 

[Papasmurf]

Same with SSJ, but obviously much more efficient in the long run, as well as having a much higher base due to the training boost you somehow receive.

 

[Pyro]

The same multiplier. I used to give it a smaller one back in the MFG days, but I've never given it a higher one. It's never occurred to me as a valid option.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Same multiplier but without strain.

 

[Six Trails]

50x, same as standard Super Saiyan.

I'd personally rather drop it to like 4x or something, but #18 vs. the kids prevents that unless the mighty mask suit was a ridiculous nerf to the point where they couldn't tank her.

 

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Why didn't Goku use ASSJ against Cell?
Why didn't Vegeta/Trunks use ASSJ against Cell Jrs?

 

[Zippy]

Same reason he told Gohan to stay away from those forms. Despite having an increase in something it doesn't balance everything out like SSJ it has its disadvantages. Like stamina or maybe a faster drain in power and in those circumstances they needed their power to last

 

[Super Saiyan Overlord1007]

I've always went with the same x50 boost. It's nothing special or at all different from standard Super Saiyan just the user is used to form and it doesn't cause stress or needlessly drain ki.

 

[POOHEAD189]

Either MSSJ has a higher multiplier, or Goku is just that much better at getting gains than Vegeta. Logically, more power would be good. I feel like if Goku had a ASSJ boost against Cell he'd have a good chance, unless MSSJ laready had such a boost, therefore he did not need to go further.
I don't think MSSJ has a higher multiplier, but if that is a fact, then Goku dropped the ball on not choosing a better transformation (unless that was his plan all along. That or he knew Cell was still more powerful some how) and Vegeta dropped the ball on being weaker than Goku despite having a higher multiplier of strength.

 

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Same reason he told Gohan to stay away from those forms. Despite having an increase in something it doesn't balance everything out like SSJ it has its disadvantages. Like stamina or maybe a faster drain in power and in those circumstances they needed their power to last

By that logic, woud it have been better if Vegeta had fought Semi Cell as SSJ?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Vegeta doesn't like the idea though.

 

[Whipedkillsmiled]

Same reason he told Gohan to stay away from those forms. Despite having an increase in something it doesn't balance everything out like SSJ it has its disadvantages. Like stamina or maybe a faster drain in power and in those circumstances they needed their power to last

By that logic, woud it have been better if Vegeta had fought Semi Cell as SSJ?

Vegeta just got a new Form bruh hes gunna show it off. He didnt know it was a bad idea until proven otherwise.

 

[Dagon]

Same as SSJ with more stamina and better ki control. The point in showing Grade 2 and 3 is that they are flawed forms.

 

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I think ASSJ is at least 2x a boost, consdering Piccolo's reaction. So, if Gohan had gone ASSJ instead of SSJ2,
would he have done to Cell about the same things he did as SSJ2?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Why would be 2x boost? That's too much.

 

[Zippy]

50 and 75 is a huge and surprising difference as well (a little smaller than SSJG Goku and full power Beerus) I can totally see why it would surprise Piccolo. Plus achieving a level above SSJ is surprising enough. It doesn't HAVE to be 2x

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Why would be 2x boost? That's too much.

SSJ Vegeta~Initial Semi Cell<<FP Semi Cell<<Perfect Cell(fake ki)<ASSJ Vegeta

This can't fit into 1.5x a boost

 

[Zippy]

SSJ Vegeta/initial semi: 50
Fp semi: 60
Perfect Cell faker: 65 to 70
Vegeta ASSJ: 75. Why not?