Multipliers DBS Manga

[GreatSaiyaman123]

What SSJ multipliers do you use for the manga?

Here's mine:

SSJ: 2.5x base
SSJ2: 3.125x base
SSJ3: 6.25x base
FPSSJ2: 10x base
SSJG: 25x base
SSJB: 37.5x base
PSSJB: 62.5x base
SSJBE: 250x base
LSSJ: 10x base (Initially)

No idea for UI though. It looked massive in the ToP, but in the Moro Saga? Not so much.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

SSJ4: 10,000x base

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

But only in the Baby Saga. Afterwards it's 1.25x base

 

[SSJ2]

Blue should be a larger boost over SSJG.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

But only in the Baby Saga. Afterwards it's 1.25x base

0.25x base, the rest of the power went into Galu's normal power

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Blue should be a larger boost over SSJG.

That would make the gap between SSJ and SSJB too big though. Or do you think I should make SSJG less than 4x SSJ3 to compensate?

I like to have SSJ3 —> SSJG the biggest boost given the Hakaishin’s reactions, and since SSJB is SSJ + SSJG I think it has to be 2.5x SSJG. I made PSSJB be 2.5x since that’s what the true SSJB power is supposed to be and normal SSJB is a incomplete form, but it could go either way.

 

[Pyro]

Super Saiyan: 10x
Super Saiyan 2: 2x
Super Saiyan 3: 4x
Super Saiyan God: 10x
Super Saiyan Blue: 5x
Perfected Super Saiyan Blue: 3x
Super Saiyan Blue Evolved: 20x
Ultra Instinct Sign: 6x
Ultra Instinct: 2x

I don't know. I haven't done a real list in a while. Still gonna probably ignore the 10% line.

 

[SSJ2]

Can't the 10% line work if we assume they became more efficient with Blue?

 

[Pyro]

Would that then translate to Super Saiyan God? Because it doesn't feel right to keep God closer to Super Saiyan 3 as Blue gets more powerful. The godly forms should be in their own tier.

 

[SSJ2]

I suppose that becoming more proficient with God power would cause all God related forms to increase.

I just tried to make it work numerically, and you're right, it's impossible to make it work if you want to keep SSJG well ahead of SSJ3. I'd be fine with taking the anime's route and saying that they absorbed the god power into all of their forms which closed the gap during the U6 tournament, but then focused training on controlling Blue allowed those forms to become more impressive again.

 

[Pyro]

How does that work? You still wind up with the same problem regardless if they absorbed the god power or not.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Still gonna probably ignore the 10% line.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Would that then translate to Super Saiyan God? Because it doesn't feel right to keep God closer to Super Saiyan 3 as Blue gets more powerful. The godly forms should be in their own tier.

I think its pretty obvious after a certain point that SSJG and SSJB are just glorified SSJ4 and SSJ5.

 

[SSJ2]

@Pyro

U6:

Vegeta: 2.5
SSJ: 10
5% SSJB: 12
SSJ2: 15
SSJ3: 30
SSJG: 120
SSJB: 240

Future arc post RoSaT:

Vegeta: 2.5
SSJ: 10
SSJ2: 15
SSJ3: 30
SSJG: 180
SSJB Bursts: 360
CSSJB: 480

Maybe. All that Whis said during U6 is that Vegeta was below 10%. If you assume he is at 5% it gives a lot more room for Blue's max initially. Then post RoSaT/after Goku acquired CSSJB their god forms progressed as a result. I think the fact that Vegeta was able to survive against SSJR Black while using SSJG could imply that it became stronger from his training.

This segment of the story is a headache to put together numerically.

 

[Pyro]

@Pyro

U6:

Vegeta: 2.5
SSJ: 10
5% SSJB: 12
SSJ2: 15
SSJ3: 30
SSJG: 120
SSJB: 240

Future arc post RoSaT:

Vegeta: 2.5
SSJ: 10
SSJ2: 15
SSJ3: 30
SSJG: 180
SSJB Bursts: 360
CSSJB: 480

Maybe. All that Whis said during U6 is that Vegeta was below 10%. If you assume he is at 5% it gives a lot more room for Blue's max initially. Then post RoSaT/after Goku acquired CSSJB their god forms progressed as a result. I think the fact that Vegeta was able to survive against SSJR Black while using SSJG could imply that it became stronger from his training.

This segment of the story is a headache to put together numerically.

But, like, Black. You forgot to factor him in.

 

[Pyro]

If people can treat characters as total idiots when it's beneficial to them, why can't I do the same for Whis here?

 

[Pyro]

I think its pretty obvious after a certain point that SSJG and SSJB are just glorified SSJ4 and SSJ5.

They are but you can't treat them like common street hos. You have to buy them a luxury room at least.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

They are but you can't treat them like common street hos. You have to buy them a luxury room at least.

I find that the series itself treats them like aids ridden hoes nowadays. Vegito in base form, with no God Ki is stronger than SSJB. SSJB is implied to be a form separate from Divine Ki, in the Granolah arc. 10% line. Goku referred to Super Saiyan God as the 4th state of Super Saiyan in the Moro arc.

 

[SSJ2]

But, like, Black. You forgot to factor him in.

What about him?

 

[SIAD]

God Toppo does a power-up in Chapter 126 at minute 17, when he charges up his Final Hakai?