My ''Base>Piccolo'' list

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Piccolo: 45

Goku
-base: 40
-SSJ: 100

Vegeta
-base: 24
-SSJ: 60

Gohan
-base: 60
-SSJ: 150
-SSJ2: 300

Cell
-vs Goku: 112.5
-vs Gohan: 150
-max: 200
-zenkai: 270

BUU SAGA

Piccolo: 45

Gohan
-base: 50
-SSJ: 125
-SSJ2: 250

Dabura: 120

Goku
-base: 70
-SSJ: 175
-SSJ2: 350

Vegeta
-base: 56
-SSJ: 140
-SSJ2: 280
-majin: 350

Pocus: 35

Yakon: 70

Kaioshin
-pre retcon: 80
-post retcon: 30
 

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Piccolo should be a 50. And what about Kaioshin, Yakon and Pocus?
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Piccolo should be a 50. And what about Kaioshin, Yakon and Pocus?

Nothing indicates Piccolo knew 50% was not Goku's max. Added the characters you asked for.
 

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Trunks wouldn't be surprised if Piccolo was weaker than 50% Goku, though. They already know Goku can't win.
I don't see why Shin would be retconned in a Base Saiyans > Piccolo scenario tbh.
 

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Pretty hard to believe Piccolo's power didn't increase at least a little after all of those years.
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
1. Trunks wouldn't be surprised if Piccolo was weaker than 50% Goku, though. They already know Goku can't win.
2. I don't see why Shin would be retconned in a Base Saiyans > Piccolo scenario tbh.

1. Piccolo would have commented on it if he thought he had surpassed Goku.
2. Because, if you want to go with Piccolo meaning power when he talked about
''different dimensions'', Shin has to be hugely above Piccolo.
 
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