My 'SSJ=2.5x Base' (GT statement) list

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According to this theory, to support Goku's statement from GT, after one transforms into SSJ for the first time,
his base level increases by 20x and SSJ multiplier is nerfed to 2.5x. This theory's advantages...
-It explains why Cooler thought Base Goku beat Freeza.
-It explains Base Goku's punch to Gero.
-It explains why humans bothered showing up against Androids.

FREEZA SAGA

Freeza: 140.000.000

Namek Goku
-base: 3.000.000
-SSJ: 150.000.000

Mecha Freeza: 160.000.000

Alternate Trunks
-base: 96.000.000
-SSJ: 240.000.000

Yardrat Goku
-base: 120.000.000
-SSJ: 300.000.000

HISTORY OF TRUNKS

Alternate Gohan (1 arm)
-base: 90.000.000
-SSJ: 225.000.000

Alternate Seventeen: 500.000.000

Alternate Eighteen: 500.000.000

MOVIE 5

Goku
-base: 150.000.000 (this explains why Cooler thought Base Goku beat Freeza)
-SSJ: 375.000.000

Cooler
-4th form: 135.000.000
-5th form: 200.000.000

ANDROID SAGA

Yamcha (post 3 years): 50.000.000
Goku became about 10x stronger in one year (Raditz-Saiyans) in my books and Android Arc was 4 years later. So, if Gero
expected him to become 10x stronger each year and thought Yamcha was Goku, Yamcha's PL is 5000x10x10x10x10


Goku
-base: 200.000.000
-SSJ: 500.000.000
-base sick: 100.000.000
-SSJ sick: 250.000.000

Vegeta
-base: 210.000.000
-SSJ: 525.000.000

Alternate Trunks
-base: 180.000.000
-SSJ: 450.000.000

Piccolo
-faking defeat: 80.000.000
-weighted: 160.000.000 (about equal to Gohan + Tenshinhan + Krillin according to Gero's statement)
-unweighted: 400.000.000 (SSJ like boost according to Krillin's statement)

Tenshinhan: 55.000.000

Krillin: 50.000.000

Gohan: 60.000.000

Gero: 170.000.000
-post energy: 320.000.000 (he absorbed about 40 mil from Yamcha, 50 mil from Vegeta's blast and 60 mil from Piccolo)

Nineteen: 100.000.000 (Vegeta scolded Goku for turning SSJ despite being sick, which means Goku had a chance in base form)
-post energy: 250.000.000

Eighteen: 700.000.000

Seventeen: 750.000.000

Kamiccolo
-weighted: 720.000.000
-unweighted: 800.000.000

Ginger Cell: 600.000.000

Humans Cell: 1.600.000.000

Sixteen: 1.500.000.000

Semi Cell
-initial: 3.000.000.000
-max: 4.500.000.000

Tenshinhan
-5x kaioken: 275.000.000
-neo tri beam (10x): 2.750.000.000
 

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It probably gets far less effective and unstable after a massive boost in power
 

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Pocket-Gog~ said:
Why not use Kaio Ken?

It's more strenuous than SSJ and Goku was sick against Nineteen.

Kaio Ken (x10) would be nearly 5 times more powerful with times ten, any drawback would be overpowered by the enormous power boost. Goku can also use kaio ken x 10 far more easily than he can use x20.
 

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Pocket-Gog~ said:
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Pocket-Gog~ said:
Why not use Kaio Ken?

It's more strenuous than SSJ and Goku was sick against Nineteen.

Kaio Ken (x10) would be nearly 5 times more powerful with times ten, any drawback would be overpowered by the enormous power boost. Goku can also use kaio ken x 10 far more easily than he can use x20.

Maybe, with such a high base level, you would explode if you tried to use it to 10fold.
 

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withheldforprivacy said:
Pocket-Gog~ said:
withheldforprivacy said:
It's more strenuous than SSJ and Goku was sick against Nineteen.

Kaio Ken (x10) would be nearly 5 times more powerful with times ten, any drawback would be overpowered by the enormous power boost. Goku can also use kaio ken x 10 far more easily than he can use x20.

Maybe, with such a high base level, you would explode if you tried to use it to 10fold.

Expect the stronger Goku got the higher he could go for Kaio Ken.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
Dr. Gero thought Goku wouldn't make much gains anymore because of his age.

Didn't he say 'even if you made the greatest gains expected'? He didn't specify what he expected.
 

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Chapter 340 (DBZ 146), P8.6-7
Goku: “I see…But did you spy on the battle on Planet Namek too?”
No.20: “There was no need. By the battle with Vegeta and co., we had already completely grasped your power and techniques. We calculated that no matter how much you improved afterwards, considering your age, you wouldn’t have any increases as enormous as you had before…”
 
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