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Toriyama has stated in several interviews -three, if my count is correct, that Goku during the Boo Saga could not get any stronger than he already was.
Akira Toriyama:
So it seems that this:
Daizenshuu:
Therefore; under normal conditions, Goku's power at Super Saiyan 3 transformation are his normal limits, and he REQUIRES Super Saiyan God to break past these limits. However, using god level power transforms his normal Chi into God Chi and it's impossible for his base form to surpass his previous strength as a Super Saiyan 3.
As we already know, Goku begins his bout' with Oob and was... well... losing. Therefore; he's capped out his limits during EOZ and is equal to his previous strength during the Boo Saga but without the stamina loss.
Oob =/= Kid Boo >= Goku SSj3 (Boo) =/= Goku Base (EOZ) > Mister Boo
Everything else that occurs within Dragonball Super fits into that specific gap.
Argument:
Kuririn states that Goku's Base form is stronger than he ever was. Therefore "Goku Base (Tournament) > Goku SSJG (Beerus Fight)'.
Counter-Argument:
Kuririn cannot sense God Chi so it's an invalid statement. Goku's Base form is stronger than it ever was.
Argument:
Beerus states he absorbed the energy into himself so his base form is equal to his SSJG form.
Counter-Argument:
Whiss contradicts it by comparing his Base form to a castle, he's barely a foot off the ground.
Seriously people, take off your Goku goggles. Toriyama has stated several times that he has not forgotten about End of Z, the characters during that time period and especially Oob. Dragonball Super has referenced Oob already so therefore; they haven't forgotten about him either. Every power increase Goku undergoes in his Base form in Super has to fall below Kid Boo tier power.
Using this logical consensus means it's possible for:
a) Piccolo to train and become relevant again.
b) Gohan to be so weak as a Super Saiyan.
c) End of Z to be relevant.
Akira Toriyama:
So it seems that this:
Daizenshuu:
Holds true.
Therefore; under normal conditions, Goku's power at Super Saiyan 3 transformation are his normal limits, and he REQUIRES Super Saiyan God to break past these limits. However, using god level power transforms his normal Chi into God Chi and it's impossible for his base form to surpass his previous strength as a Super Saiyan 3.
As we already know, Goku begins his bout' with Oob and was... well... losing. Therefore; he's capped out his limits during EOZ and is equal to his previous strength during the Boo Saga but without the stamina loss.
Oob =/= Kid Boo >= Goku SSj3 (Boo) =/= Goku Base (EOZ) > Mister Boo
Everything else that occurs within Dragonball Super fits into that specific gap.
Argument:
Kuririn states that Goku's Base form is stronger than he ever was. Therefore "Goku Base (Tournament) > Goku SSJG (Beerus Fight)'.
Counter-Argument:
Kuririn cannot sense God Chi so it's an invalid statement. Goku's Base form is stronger than it ever was.
Argument:
Beerus states he absorbed the energy into himself so his base form is equal to his SSJG form.
Counter-Argument:
Whiss contradicts it by comparing his Base form to a castle, he's barely a foot off the ground.
Seriously people, take off your Goku goggles. Toriyama has stated several times that he has not forgotten about End of Z, the characters during that time period and especially Oob. Dragonball Super has referenced Oob already so therefore; they haven't forgotten about him either. Every power increase Goku undergoes in his Base form in Super has to fall below Kid Boo tier power.
Using this logical consensus means it's possible for:
a) Piccolo to train and become relevant again.
b) Gohan to be so weak as a Super Saiyan.
c) End of Z to be relevant.
