Nappa Arc Power Chain

[Power Level Guy]

Actual Nappa > Masenko > Expected Nappa (Post Kikoho) > Kikoho > Expected Nappa (Post Suicide Blast) > Suicide Blast > Expected Nappa > Piccolo

Piccolo gets killed by Suicide Blast, Kikoho, and Masenko. He's straight up weak sauce.

 

[SSJ2]

That's way too many expected Nappas

 

[Power Level Guy]

That's way too many expected Nappas

Haha don’t blame me my guy! Blame the story!
People keep getting shocked left and right with Nappa.

 

[SSJ2]

But did they ever really expect their attacks to kill him? I think they all knew how futile it was as soon as they felt Nappa's power.

 

[Power Level Guy]

But did they ever really expect their attacks to kill him? I think they all knew how futile it was as soon as they felt Nappa's power.

Piccolo thinks that Suicide Blast took out Nappa.

Piccolo thinks Kikoho killed Nappa and calls him a monster for surviving.

Piccolo is very weak in this saga.

 

[Hector]

Kikoho must be close to Initial Nappa, since it did the same kind of superficial damage that Vegeta's blast did to Recoome, and Vegeta's blast was close to Recoome. Massenko is not close to Initial Nappa. Therefore Kikoho>Massenko.

 

[Power Level Guy]

But did they ever really expect their attacks to kill him? I think they all knew how futile it was as soon as they felt Nappa's power.

Yeah, that's what Piccolo states IIRC.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Kikoho must be close to Initial Nappa, since it did the same kind of superficial damage that Vegeta's blast did to Recoome, and Vegeta's blast was close to Recoome. Massenko is not close to Initial Nappa. Therefore Kikoho>Massenko.

Kikoho did far less damage than Final Crash did to Reecome.

Masenko damaged Nappa's hand. It's close to Nappa's power here.

 

[Hector]

Kikoho did far less damage than Final Crash did to Reecome.

To me it looks like the same damage. They both had their clothes destroyed and a few cuts here and there.

 

[Power Level Guy]

To me it looks like the same damage. They both had their clothes destroyed and a few cuts here and there.

Post the panels up and let's compare.

 

[Hector]

Post the panels up and let's compare.

I can't find panels. You post them if you want.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Damn, Piccolo straight up thinks Nappa is dead. So does everyone else. Then Tien gets pissed and says, I'm going to do it.

Kikoho > Expected Nappa 2 > Suicide Blast > Expected Nappa >> Piccolo

Piccolo is getting killed by damn near every Z-Fighter's finishing move.

 

[Hector]

Damn, Piccolo straight up thinks Nappa is dead. So does everyone else. Then Tien gets pissed and says, I'm going to do it.

Kikoho > Expected Nappa 2 > Suicide Blast > Expected Nappa >> Piccolo

Piccolo is getting killed by damn near every Z-Fighter's finishing move.

If you insist on Massenko>Kikoho, how's this?

Massenko - 2,800
Kikoho - 2,600
2nd Expected Nappa - 2,400
Suicide Blast - 2,200
Expected Nappa - 2,000
Piccolo - 1,700
Tenshinhan - 1,400
Krillin - 1,350
Yamcha - 1,300
Saibaimen - 1,200

 

[Power Level Guy]

If you insist on Massenko>Kikoho, how's this?

That’s what the evidence shows.

After Kikoho fails, the plan is still for Gohan to finish Nappa is it not? Nothing has changed.

Piccolo - 1,700

I’d say Piccolo has to be at least 2,000 and Tien is 1,600. Tien being 1.33x Saibaman makes sense to me because he practically one shots it. He’s gotta have a decent advantage here.

Hmm not sure where to put the Suicide Blast… there’s hardly any room and with Piccolo at 2,000 it’s tough…

I have to look into how strong Intial Expected Nappa fared.

Actual Nappa 3,000
Masenko 2,800
Expected Nappa 2,750
Kikoho 2,400
Expected Nappa 2,250
Suicide Blast ….

Ran out of room. You might be onto something with Piccolo so low…

This is going to be extremely tight.

Let’s switch to a different scale, maybe it can be easier.

Let me try.

Saibaman 100
Yamcha 100
Krillen 110
Tien 120
Piccolo 135

Damn all that feels so tight…. Shoot, this is going to be hard.

 

[Hector]

That’s what the evidence shows.

After Kikoho fails, the plan is still for Gohan to finish Nappa is it not? Nothing has changed.

No. The plan was for them to grab Nappa's tail first, and when that didn't work, they no longer hoped to win, only to stall for Goku to arrive.

I’d say Piccolo has to be at least 2,000 and Tien is 1,600. Tien being 1.33x Saibaman makes sense to me because he practically one shots it. He’s gotta have a decent advantage here.

Tenshinhan didn't one shot, and it was stated that the Saibaiman underestimated him. There's no way Piccolo can be 2,000 with the chain still working. We have to place him lower.

 

[GSM123]

Chaozu: 1,000
Saibaman: 1,200
Gohan: 1,2
Yamcha: 1,350
Kuririn: 1,500
Tenshinhan: 1,600
Piccolo: 2,000

Scattering Bullet: 1,875
Self destruction: 2,250
Kikoho: 2,400
Enraged Gohan: 2,500
Masenko: 2,800

Not sure if Nappa is 4,000 or 3,000.

 

[The Supreme Being]

It seems that Piccolo really was a weakling in this arc, no wonder his suppressed level wasn't much higher than Gohan and Krillin's.

I'd like to believe Piccolo was around 2,000 at least but it's hard to justify.

 

[Papasmurf]

Chaozu: 700
Saibaman: 1,200
Gohan: 1,280
Yamcha: 1,350
Kuririn: 1,600
Tenshinhan: 1,700
Piccolo: 2,000

Scattering Bullet: 1,875
Self destruction: 2,250
Kikoho: 2,400
Enraged Gohan: 2,550
Masenko: 2,800

Nappa: 3,200
vs. Goku (initial) 4,000
FP: 7700

Yajirobe: 900

For me.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Self destruction: 2,250
Kikoho: 2,400

i think this it

But where does Expected Nappa fall?

 

[Papasmurf]

It's really a tight gap because we know he has to be able to tank the scattering bullet no problem and whoop Piccolo with ease but still be grievously injured by the self destruct. I just say fuck it and have expected Nappa around the same as the self destruct. Maybe self destructs are just more efficient at wiping out targets than regular blasts because most of the time you clutch onto the opponent to maximize the effect. For instance, I doubt even with Cell's guard down Goku could've wiped out his upper body had it not been a point blank KHH.