Numbers for Piccolo/Freeza/Vegeta/Goku

[Six Trails]

For those who don't follow the Daizenshuu numbers, where do you have:

Freeza (2nd form; full power):
Piccolo (unweighted):
Freeza (3rd form):
Vegeta (post-Dende zenkai):
Base Goku (post-Ginyu zenkai):
Freeza (true form; initial):
Freeza (true form; 50%):
Goku (Kaioken x20; Kamehameha):
Freeza (true form; 100%):
Super Saiyan Goku:

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[Fantastische Hure]

Freeza (2nd form; full power) - 1

Piccolo (unweighted) - 1.14

Freeza (3rd form) - 1.72 (about 2.35 at Full-Power)

Vegeta (post-Dende zenkai) - 5

Base Goku (post-Ginyu zenkai) - 10

Freeza (true form; initial) - 10.8

Freeza (true form; 50%) - 230

Goku (Kaioken x20; Kamehameha) - 215

Freeza (true form; 100%) - 460

Super Saiyan Goku - 500

EDIT: I screwed the numbers up big-time. Sorry I'll fix it.

 

[Six Trails]

Is Vegeta being 3x 3rd Form Freeza necessary? Or Freeza being 1.5x Piccolo?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Is Vegeta being 3x 3rd Form Freeza necessary? Or Freeza being 1.5x Piccolo?

Vegeta is more like over 2x 3rd Form Freeza, since Freeza at full-power wasn't shown, I think. It's not really necessary, because you could just say that Vegeta bought into being a Super-Saiyan and that he was unbeatable as one, no matter who he fights. At the same time, though he could at-least be way above 3rd Form Freeza, especially after he saw the increases of Freeza's first two transformations. He might not have been thinking rationally, but I don't think he was below 3rd Form Freeza in any way.

Nah, Piccolo being 2/3 of supressed Freeza is just something that I like. In-fact you could have the gap similar to Vegeta/Kiwi, since they kind-of have the same feats, l0l. But Piccolo also thought he'd still be faster than Freeza even after being way outclassed, which could make it a possibility for it to be a bigger gap.

 

[Six Trails]

Fantastiche Hure, how do you like this?<div class='spoiler_toggle'>Spoiler: click to toggle</div><div class="spoiler" style="display:none;">Freeza (2nd form; full power): 1,350,000
Piccolo (unweighted): 1,500,000
Freeza (3rd form): 2,000,000
Vegeta (post-Dende zenkai): 3,000,000
Base Goku (post-Ginyu zenkai): 5,000,000
Freeza (true form; initial): 5,300,000
Freeza (true form; 50%): 120,000,000
Goku (Kaioken x20; Kamehameha): 112,500,000
Freeza (true form; 100%): 240,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku: 250,000,000</div>

Also;

1. Why do you think 3rd form Freeza didn't ever show his full power?
2. If you think he did, when did he show it? Did the other Zet Senshi know about it?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Fantastiche Hure, how do you like this?<div class='spoiler_toggle'>Spoiler: click to toggle</div><div class="spoiler" style="display:none;">Freeza (2nd form; full power): 1,350,000
Piccolo (unweighted): 1,500,000
Freeza (3rd form): 2,000,000
Vegeta (post-Dende zenkai): 3,000,000
Base Goku (post-Ginyu zenkai): 5,000,000
Freeza (true form; initial): 5,300,000
Freeza (true form; 50%): 120,000,000
Goku (Kaioken x20; Kamehameha): 112,500,000
Freeza (true form; 100%): 240,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku: 250,000,000</div>

Also;

1. Why do you think 3rd form Freeza didn't ever show his full power?
2. If you think he did, when did he show it? Did the other Zet Senshi know about it?

That looks good to me. I like the way the Kaio-Ken-x20 KHH worked out for you on your list, it's better than it was on the scale I posted, because the extra amplification Goku gets on the KHH is bigger (which makes more sense, in my opinion) & Freeza is still good enough away from that.

I made a topic about it sometime ago. It doesn't have to be that way, but I'd prefer if it were or else 3rd Form really doesn't have that much of a point as a transformation, if you get what I mean.

Here is the topic:

http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8515345/1/

 

[Zippy]

If I were to ignore official completely, I would have
Frieza 2nd Full Power: 1,350,000 (1.35x good for 2 short power ups)
Piccolo Unweighted: 1,500,000 ( Has to be stronger )
Frieza 3rd Full Power: 2,100,000 ( nice lead over Piccolo)
Vegeta Zenkai: 3,150,000 (a new league, just like how 3rd was for Piccolo hence 1.5x the previous league)
Goku Zenkai: 4,500,000 ( makes Vegeta look like snot a good gap would be required for that)
Frieza initial: 4,750,000 ( like Goku made Vegeta look like nothing, still has advantage over Goku himself though)
Goku KKx10: 45,000,000
Goku KKx20: 90,000,000
Frieza 50%: 100,000,000
Goku SSJ: 210,000,000
Frieza 100: 200,000,000

 

[withheldforprivacy]

2nd Form Freeza: 1.5
Unweighted Piccolo: 1.575
3rd Form Freeza: 2.1
Vegeta: 3
Goku: 6
Freeza pre 50%: 3-12 (fluctuates with effort)
Freeza 50%: 140
Goku (worn): 4.8
Goku (20x KK): 96
Goku (20x KK/KHH): 144
Freeza 100%: 280
SSJ Goku: 300

 

[Yoshi]

I don't follow the Daiz numbers. I have it like this:

Freeza 2nd Form: 1,000,000
Piccolo: 1,200,000
Freeza 2nd Form (Powered Up): 1,200,000
Freeza 2nd Form (Full Power): 1,500,000
Piccolo (Full Power): 1,800,000
Freeza 3rd Form: 2,700,000
Freeza True Form: 5,400,000
Vegeta: 6,000,000
Freeza True Form (Warming Up): 10,000,000
Goku: 10,000,000
Kaioken x20: 200,000,000
Freeza 50%: 225,000,000
Freeza 70%: 315,000,000
Freeza 100%: 450,000,000
SSJ Goku: 500,000,000

 

[ahill1]

Following the Daiz numbers:

Freeza (2nd form; full power) 1,400,000

Piccolo (unweighted) 1,500,000

Freeza (3rd form) 1,850,000

Vegeta (post-Dende zenkai) 2,400,000

Base Goku (post-Ginyu zenkai) 3,000,000

Freeza (true form; initial) 3,250,000

Freeza (true form; 50%) 70,000,000

Goku (Kaioken x20; Kamehameha) 72,000,000

Freeza (true form; 100%) 140,000,000

Super Saiyan Goku 150,000,000

My own numbers

Freeza (2nd form; full power) 1,590,000

Piccolo (unweighted) 1,700,000

Freeza (3rd form) 2,400,000

Freeza(true form initial) 4,500,000

Vegeta (post-Dende zenkai) 4,000,000

Base Goku (post-Ginyu zenkai) 7,000,000

Freeza (true form; speedup) 7,400,000

Freeza (true form; 50%) 165,000,000

Goku (Kaioken x20) 140,000,000

Freeza (true form; 100%) 330,000,000

Super Saiyan Goku 350,000,000