Odin Destroyer Armor vs Super Vegetto

[kriss-]

Beerus is stated to be Universal level, which is hundreds of times more powerful than Odin. Super Vegetto should at least be Galaxy level -which is roughly the same as Odin.

~Rules

Vegetto can do anything to win.
Odin is limited with his Sword & energy attacks. No energy manipulation or other BS type of attacks. ect.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Nothing suggests Vegetto is anything beyond Solar System level, if even that. Beerus being universe level is completely twisting Kibitoshin's statement.

That said, Odin wins easily.

 

[kriss-]

Nothing suggests Vegetto is anything beyond Solar System level, if even that. Beerus being universe level is completely twisting Kibitoshin's statement.

That said, Odin wins easily.

It was stated multiple times that Beerus could take out the Universe if he went all out.

The feat where a suppressed Goku SSJG & suppressed Beerus both punch each other -resulting in the Universe shaking, also debunks your theory.

Feats over-ride statements and speculation.

That said, Odin should get one shotted.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

The feat where a suppressed Goku SSJG & suppressed Beerus both punch each other -resulting in the Universe shaking, also debunks your theory.

And where exactly did this happen? Now that we have more accurate subs for last week's episode, I could see Beerus being that strong until proven otherwise, but there was absolutely no instance I can recall of the universe shaking from their clash.

Also, where Beerus ranks has absolutely nothing to do with Vegetto's ranking, with the latter being far weaker than him. Vegetto himself has no feats or statements to place him at anything beyond Solar System level.

 

[FutureProtagonist]

This is an obvious bait thread. Try somewhere else.

 

[kriss-]

The feat where a suppressed Goku SSJG & suppressed Beerus both punch each other -resulting in the Universe shaking, also debunks your theory.

And where exactly did this happen? Now that we have more accurate subs for last week's episode, I could see Beerus being that strong until proven otherwise, but there was absolutely no instance I can recall of the universe shaking from their clash.

Also, where Beerus ranks has absolutely nothing to do with Vegetto's ranking, with the latter being far weaker than him. Vegetto himself has no feats or statements to place him at anything beyond Solar System level.

We have multiple statements that infer Beerus being able to destroy the Universe if he goes all out. 'MULTIPLE', non-contradicted statements. Even if you attempt to twist them into meaning he would destroy planets 1 by 1 we have this:

Which contradicted and debunks the speculation and lowballing for Dragonball Z feats.

During this portion of the fight, Beerus & Goku SSJG were heavily suppressed and nowhere near their full power. A suppressed punch from both managed to shake the Universe which means a fully powered 'physical' punch can shake the entire Universe from Beerus.

Odin's best feats, even those of him at full power, ONLY depict him at busting Galaxies -equating to him being a 'multi-galaxy' busting fight.

IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO CONTRADICT ODIN ONLY BEING A GALAXY BUSTER -AND POSSIBLY BEING HIGHER, THAN PLEASE STATE IT NOW.

The rules in the original post say only hand 2 hand combat. Which strips Odin of using the Odin Force to matter manipulation or any other form of offensive attacks -with the exclusion of physical attacks.

So as a summary:

Beerus = Universal fighter with physical attacks and potential Universe busting fighter with Chi attacks and going all out. Backed by feats and multiple statements.

Odin = Multi-Galaxy busting fighter with the Odin Force. Backed by feats and multiple statements -with nothing depicting him any higher.

Universal Busting Power > Galaxy Busting Fighter.

There are 100 billion galaxies in the Universe so a single punch from Beerus is 100 billion times more powerful than anything Odin has done with the Odin Force.

Beerus single shots.



P.S.

Evidence for Odin being ONLY a galaxy buster:

Conclusively, Super Perfect Cell is a stated Solar System Buster.

Vegetto is infinitely more powerful than that. However, he isn't infinitely weaker than Beerus either. Goku stated he believed Vegetto 'probably', couldn't win.

So summarily, unless you believe Vegetto is 100 billion times weaker than Beerus (Power-scaling for the amount of Galaxies in a Universe -which is laughable if you do believe this), than Vegetto single shots.

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

It seems like Beerus truly is Multi-Galaxy Level.

You got 1 thing wrong though. Powers/DC are not linear. Vegeta is only 3600x above a human yet he is a planet buster. So its still a possibility that Vegito is only multi-solar system level

 

[kriss-]

It seems like Beerus truly is Multi-Galaxy Level.

You got 1 thing wrong though. Powers/DC are not linear. Vegeta is only 3600x above a human yet he is a planet buster. So its still a possibility that Vegito is only multi-solar system level

He's Universal level.

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

It seems like Beerus truly is Multi-Galaxy Level.

You got 1 thing wrong though. Powers/DC are not linear. Vegeta is only 3600x above a human yet he is a planet buster. So its still a possibility that Vegito is only multi-solar system level

He's Universal level.

There are only 4 galaxies in the Dragon Ball Universe

 

[kriss-]

It seems like Beerus truly is Multi-Galaxy Level.

You got 1 thing wrong though. Powers/DC are not linear. Vegeta is only 3600x above a human yet he is a planet buster. So its still a possibility that Vegito is only multi-solar system level

He's Universal level.

There are only 4 galaxies in the Dragon Ball Universe

Incorrect.

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/88/t1988671-size-of-dbz-universe/

There is no reason to assume the Dragonball Z universe is only 4 galaxies in size.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

If there's a translation to prove that clash did shake the universe, I'll concede, but from visuals alone, it only seemed to shake an area of several planetary diameters, which is expected of two casual solar system busters.

As already mentioned before, destructive capability doesn't scale linearly with battle powers, so even if Beerus can indeed destroy the universe, none of this can be scaled to Vegetto. Likewise, with the info we have on the DB universe's Galaxies, it's more accurate to assume there are 4 Galaxies rather than 4 quadrants. In short, shaking the DB Universe is a lot less impressive than shaking ours, unless you're making a wild speculation on each Galaxy being far larger than the Milky Way.

But then again, all this is meaningless to you based on your last few posts. Obvious bait thread is obvious.

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

Typical t0sh

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

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[kriss-]

Well I did some research on Comic vine and it turns out Odin isn't even Galactic level. Whereas Beerus affected the entire Universe.

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/whose-more-powerful-odin-or-beerus-1715905/#37

Even if you want to argue he only shook a few 'Galaxies', this still makes him Multi-Galactic level. A level which is eons beyond the following:

Superman Prime
Superboy Prime
Kal-Kent
Silver Age Superman
Composite Silver Age Superman
Odin
Surt
Rune King Thor
Galactus
Old King Thor /Necro Sword

None of the above have shown Galactic busting power.

Dragonball Z is almost in a league of it's own now.

 

[FutureProtagonist]

What's the point of posting a thread if you've already decided the winner of this battle?

 

[kriss-]

What's the point of posting a thread if you've already decided the winner of this battle?

To see if we could all come to a logical consensus without people being biased towards Dragonball Z.

Need I say that a writer of Odin also said he isn't a Galaxy buster?

 

[FutureProtagonist]

Who gives a shit?

 

[kriss-]

Who gives a shit?

Clearly you do.

 

[FutureProtagonist]

You're mistaken. You're annoying me, not the fight and not the inane cross-universe versus crap. Your obsession with battle powers and feats is laughable; it's so fake and juvenile. Your only interest in Super stems from your desire to imagine Goku beating up people from comic books; you have no interest in the story, no interest in the characters, or indeed, the series at all.

I personally don't even know if Goku would win against Odin; Super is a boring, awful, show that I haven't watched much of. What bothers me isn't you believing Goku is a trillion times faster than light, it's your anti-discussion, anti-intellect, biased attitude. The attitude that got you rightfully banned from all kinds of DBZ forums. If you were willing to discuss things in a civil and direct way, I would have no problem with you. You don't. You pretend to start discussions (the answer to which you've already decided), your responses are confrontational and vitriolic. You believe that you can't be wrong.

I don't care about battle powers; they're a fun thing to discuss, but only because I want to learn how to find and present evidence. I don't care about where I rank characters' power, I only care about finding the right answer.

That's the extent of my care about this thread.

 

[kriss-]

You're mistaken. You're annoying me, not the fight and not the inane cross-universe versus crap. Your obsession with battle powers and feats is laughable; it's so fake and juvenile. Your only interest in Super stems from your desire to imagine Goku beating up people from comic books; you have no interest in the story, no interest in the characters, or indeed, the series at all.

I personally don't even know if Goku would win against Odin; Super is a boring, awful, show that I haven't watched much of. What bothers me isn't you believing Goku is a trillion times faster than light, it's your anti-discussion, anti-intellect, biased attitude. The attitude that got you rightfully banned from all kinds of DBZ forums. If you were willing to discuss things in a civil and direct way, I would have no problem with you. You don't. You pretend to start discussions (the answer to which you've already decided), your responses are confrontational and vitriolic. You believe that you can't be wrong.

I don't care about battle powers; they're a fun thing to discuss, but only because I want to learn how to find and present evidence. I don't care about where I rank characters' power, I only care about finding the right answer.

That's the extent of my care about this thread.

The writer of Odin states he is only a planetary threat and not a Galactic level.

Beerus has feats of shaking the entire 'Mortal Universe' and the dimensions 'Outside' of it -which theoretically makes him capable of 'above' Universal level attacks.

So please do yourself a favor and bring some statements or feats, from either Db Super or Marvel to debunk my irrefutable logic.

P.S.

I only state I'm right because people make stupid choices before they actually do research about the characters. They decide to given Odin the victory because he 'should be stronger by default'. Which I've debunked.