Omega Yi Xing Long vs Goku SSJG (Vs Beerus)?

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Who is more powerful?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Yi Xing Long's Minus Energy Power Ball ought to be far stronger, given it's the condensed entirety of YXL's Minus Energy which could eventually destroy the universe (Kaioshinkai included) much like SSG Goku and Beerus' clash. Assuming it hits, it's an easy win for Yi Xing Long but without that, things get debatable when it comes to what scaling he gets without his best attack. His durability feats would certainly imply so as the Big Bang Kamehameha Gogeta used would likely be stronger than the kick he used to knock away the Minus Energy Power Ball. Yi Xing Long being a silhouette after the attack and the sound effect that went along with it do imply it was purely due to his regeneration though and the Perfect Files do state how SS4 Gogeta could've killed Super Yi Xing Long with a single finger. That said, Super Yi Xing Long himself shouldn't scale from his Universe level attack, though does receive Multi-Galaxy level scaling from being several dozen times stronger than S17 Arc Base Goku who performed a similar feat to his M12 counterpart when shaking Hell.

That said, Yi Xing Long himself doesn't have the power to compete with SSG Goku without his strongest attack. He also lacks the speed to use it unless Goku lets him, since Beerus' flight speed feats are 3/4th as fast as what Whis showed, which is far beyond what scaling can provide to GT characters.

 

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Yi Xing Long's Minus Energy Power Ball ought to be far stronger, given it's the condensed entirety of YXL's Minus Energy which could eventually destroy the universe (Kaioshinkai included) much like SSG Goku and Beerus' clash. Assuming it hits, it's an easy win for Yi Xing Long but without that, things get debatable when it comes to what scaling he gets without his best attack. His durability feats would certainly imply so as the Big Bang Kamehameha Gogeta used would likely be stronger than the kick he used to knock away the Minus Energy Power Ball. Yi Xing Long being a silhouette after the attack and the sound effect that went along with it do imply it was purely due to his regeneration though and the Perfect Files do state how SS4 Gogeta could've killed Super Yi Xing Long with a single finger. That said, Super Yi Xing Long himself shouldn't scale from his Universe level attack, though does receive Multi-Galaxy level scaling from being several dozen times stronger than S17 Arc Base Goku who performed a similar feat to his M12 counterpart when shaking Hell.

That said, Yi Xing Long himself doesn't have the power to compete with SSG Goku without his strongest attack. He also lacks the speed to use it unless Goku lets him, since Beerus' flight speed feats are 3/4th as fast as what Whis showed, which is far beyond what scaling can provide to GT characters.

So Omega Yi Xing Long is a Multi Galaxy destroyer, while his best attack is a Universe destroyer or at least not far from that?

 

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I began to think very seriously about who is the least powerful character capable of destroying a Galaxy and it occurred to me that it must be between Gohan Boo and Gohan Boo (Enraged).

  In the Anime, after Super Vegetto stopped Gohan Boo (enraged), Vegetto insentive to Gohan Boo to be enraged again and use the same power that could destroy the entire Galaxy. That means that Gohan Boo had to be enraged in order to perform such a feat.

  I still don't understand much that it has to do with Goku SSJ3 (M12) shaking the other World, with him being a Galaxy Destroyer, but I imagine he must be extremely powerful compared to his Cannon version.

  Goku acknowledges having greatly increased his powers since the Arc Boo, but I still believe that Vegeta SSJ2 (M12 / Post Majin)> Pikkon (M12)> = Goku SSJ (M12). So I don't think Goku (M12) is a complete beast compared to his Cannon, unless his SSJ3 multiplier is amplified.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

So Omega Yi Xing Long is a Multi Galaxy destroyer, while his best attack is a Universe destroyer or at least not far from that?

Correct.

I began to think very seriously about who is the least powerful character capable of destroying a Galaxy and it occurred to me that it must be between Gohan Boo and Gohan Boo (Enraged).

  In the Anime, after Super Vegetto stopped Gohan Boo (enraged), Vegetto insentive to Gohan Boo to be enraged again and use the same power that could destroy the entire Galaxy. That means that Gohan Boo had to be enraged in order to perform such a feat.

Vegetto stated that the multiple dimensions being opened up would destroy the universe, not Boo's actual power, so I wouldn't say that feat can scale to Boo.

I still don't understand much that it has to do with Goku SSJ3 (M12) shaking the other World, with him being a Galaxy Destroyer, but I imagine he must be extremely powerful compared to his Cannon version.

Otherworld is a universe-sized space, as stated in the anime and suggested in the SEG map. In order to shake and distort the amount of it he did, M12 SS3 Goku ought to be Galaxy level.

Goku acknowledges having greatly increased his powers since the Arc Boo, but I still believe that Vegeta SSJ2 (M12 / Post Majin)> Pikkon (M12)> = Goku SSJ (M12). So I don't think Goku (M12) is a complete beast compared to his Cannon, unless his SSJ3 multiplier is amplified.

The scaling works fine if only viewing things in scaling terms. However, that alone can't be used when talking about the destructive capacity and separate continuities. The capabilities of character differ in each continuity. For example, exaggerating the size of various explosions and such cause things such as Namek Arc top tiers being Solar System level rather than just Small Star level as in the anime. Same for the destructive output of the movie continuities being different from the anime.
Alternatively, if using composite scaling for the anime, you could just use scaling and apply Galaxy level to the anime versions of any character stronger than M12 Goku, especially considering Anime SS3 Goku and Pure Boo presented Galaxy level feats.

 

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So Omega Yi Xing Long is a Multi Galaxy destroyer, while his best attack is a Universe destroyer or at least not far from that?

Correct.

I began to think very seriously about who is the least powerful character capable of destroying a Galaxy and it occurred to me that it must be between Gohan Boo and Gohan Boo (Enraged).

  In the Anime, after Super Vegetto stopped Gohan Boo (enraged), Vegetto insentive to Gohan Boo to be enraged again and use the same power that could destroy the entire Galaxy. That means that Gohan Boo had to be enraged in order to perform such a feat.

Vegetto stated that the multiple dimensions being opened up would destroy the universe, not Boo's actual power, so I wouldn't say that feat can scale to Boo.

I still don't understand much that it has to do with Goku SSJ3 (M12) shaking the other World, with him being a Galaxy Destroyer, but I imagine he must be extremely powerful compared to his Cannon version.

Otherworld is a universe-sized space, as stated in the anime and suggested in the SEG map. In order to shake and distort the amount of it he did, M12 SS3 Goku ought to be Galaxy level.

Goku acknowledges having greatly increased his powers since the Arc Boo, but I still believe that Vegeta SSJ2 (M12 / Post Majin)> Pikkon (M12)> = Goku SSJ (M12). So I don't think Goku (M12) is a complete beast compared to his Cannon, unless his SSJ3 multiplier is amplified.

The scaling works fine if only viewing things in scaling terms. However, that alone can't be used when talking about the destructive capacity and separate continuities. The capabilities of character differ in each continuity. For example, exaggerating the size of various explosions and such cause things such as Namek Arc top tiers being Solar System level rather than just Small Star level as in the anime. Same for the destructive output of the movie continuities being different from the anime.
Alternatively, if using composite scaling for the anime, you could just use scaling and apply Galaxy level to the anime versions of any character stronger than M12 Goku, especially considering Anime SS3 Goku and Pure Boo presented Galaxy level feats.

I think that right after Vegetto SSJ stops Gohan Boo (Enraged), the first one tells Gohan Boo that he, at the moment of being enraged, managed to obtain a power capable of destroying the entire Galaxy.

  Then you could say that for the continuity of The Series (Ignoring DBS), Yi Xing Long is the first Character capable of destroying our Galaxy. The same could be said of Goku SSJ3 (M12) (Compound).

  Something like: Gogeta SSJ4 >>>>>> Omega Yi Xing Long (Minus Energy Power Ball) >>> Omega Yi Xing Long >>> Kid Boo (Anime) (Compound)> Goku SSJ3 (Anime) (Compound) >>> Yi Xing Long (Base) = Goku SSJ3 (M12) (Compound)?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

  Then you could say that for the continuity of The Series (Ignoring DBS), Yi Xing Long is the first Character capable of destroying our Galaxy. The same could be said of Goku SSJ3 (M12) (Compound).

I'd say that'd depend on whether or not you consider scaling for the Boo Arc anime and movies completely devoid from GT or not. I'd say not necessarily, since movie villains are still shown to have been fought against in GT's timeline and even if ignoring Anime Pure Boo being far closer to SSJ Vegetto, Base Goku's feat of shaking hell in the Super #17 Arc is pretty similar to M12 SS3 Goku's feat.

I'd say emphasis being placed on Yi Xing Long being able to destroy a Galaxy in the Perfect Files and BT3 doesn't mean he's the first character capable of doing so nor where his power caps out, considering the Boo Arc and onwards still treat Planet busting with high regard when even Solar System busters are surpassed in power.

 

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  Then you could say that for the continuity of The Series (Ignoring DBS), Yi Xing Long is the first Character capable of destroying our Galaxy. The same could be said of Goku SSJ3 (M12) (Compound).

I'd say that'd depend on whether or not you consider scaling for the Boo Arc anime and movies completely devoid from GT or not. I'd say not necessarily, since movie villains are still shown to have been fought against in GT's timeline and even if ignoring Anime Pure Boo being far closer to SSJ Vegetto, Base Goku's feat of shaking hell in the Super #17 Arc is pretty similar to M12 SS3 Goku's feat.

I'd say emphasis being placed on Yi Xing Long being able to destroy a Galaxy in the Perfect Files and BT3 doesn't mean he's the first character capable of doing so nor where his power caps out, considering the Boo Arc and onwards still treat Planet busting with high regard when even Solar System busters are surpassed in power.

You're right, so the first Star destroyer character is Goku SSJ3 (M12) or Fat Janemba.

  By the way, do you think the GBE of Universe 7 is the same as the mass mass of the Obserbavle Universe, which would be 40 Yotta Foe?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

You're right, so the first Star destroyer character is Goku SSJ3 (M12) or Fat Janemba.

Did you mean first Galaxy buster? If so, then yes. If using composite scaling for the Anime canon in line with movie feats, then any SS3 tier in the anime could apply for that, considering M12 Goku's feat was fairly far into Galaxy+ level.

By the way, do you think the GBE of Universe 7 is the same as the mass mass of the Obserbavle Universe, which would be 40 Yotta Foe?

If talking about the mass of the mortal realm, it'd be marginally bigger due to the sheer fact of housing planets that wouldn't be feasible for our own such as Vegeta or Namek. That's at the bare minimum as information such as Earth being somewhere on the edge of the universe according to Super could make it a lot larger.

Including the other realms such as Otherworld, Hell, the Makai, the Kaioshinkai, etc. could make the entire Universe 7 macrocosm up to 40x greater than our universe based on the spherical design of it featured in the SEG. That's the absolute high-end for it though as the SEG map certainly isn't to scale (Serpent Road being shown as far larger than it should be and the Kaioshinkai not being drawn anywhere close to the 10% of Universe 7 it should be).

 

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You're right, so the first Star destroyer character is Goku SSJ3 (M12) or Fat Janemba.

Did you mean first Galaxy buster? If so, then yes. If using composite scaling for the Anime canon in line with movie feats, then any SS3 tier in the anime could apply for that, considering M12 Goku's feat was fairly far into Galaxy+ level.

By the way, do you think the GBE of Universe 7 is the same as the mass mass of the Obserbavle Universe, which would be 40 Yotta Foe?

If talking about the mass of the mortal realm, it'd be marginally bigger due to the sheer fact of housing planets that wouldn't be feasible for our own such as Vegeta or Namek. That's at the bare minimum as information such as Earth being somewhere on the edge of the universe according to Super could make it a lot larger.

Including the other realms such as Otherworld, Hell, the Makai, the Kaioshinkai, etc. could make the entire Universe 7 macrocosm up to 40x greater than our universe based on the spherical design of it featured in the SEG. That's the absolute high-end for it though as the SEG map certainly isn't to scale (Serpent Road being shown as far larger than it should be and the Kaioshinkai not being drawn anywhere close to the 10% of Universe 7 it should be).

So Universe 7 is between 2-40x larger than the Universe.

And what should be the minimum of Foe to destroy Universe 7? If one considers that the Multi Galactic Level is a minimum of 1 ZettaFoe?