Piccolo Not A Super Saiyan?

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Chapter: 346 (DBZ 152), P12.4
Kuririn: “He’s st-strong…! What kind of training did Piccolo do…And he’s not even a Su-Super Saiyan…”

It seems Krillin statement about Piccolo being so strong and not being a Super Saiyan suggest that Piccolo is not in the league of Goku/Vegeta/Trunks and need to fuse with Kami in order reach it and surpass it. So what do you think?

Discuss...

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Kuririn's comment pretty much compares Piccolo to the Super Saiyans in my eyes, so he should be far past even Freeza level imo. He's not on the Super Saiyan's level yet, but he is approaching it at this point.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

For me it's impling he's too strong for a non Super Saiyan and is up there with the others.

 

[Jeff Styles]

He's far above the earthlings and is getting closer to the 3 SSJs.

 

[Jerk Store]

No, he's not a super Saiyajin.

 

[Boo Brand Milk]

Kuririn's comment pretty much compares Piccolo to the Super Saiyans in my eyes, so he should be far past even Freeza level imo. He's not on the Super Saiyan's level yet, but he is approaching it at this point.

Ding ding ding ding we have a winner!

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

So in other words, Piccolo is not in the level of SSjin new ceiling?

 

[Papasmurf]

Piccolo reached the level of a super green skinned negro

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Piccolo reached the level of a super green skinned negro

But that wasn't until he fuse with Kami.

 

[Pyro]

Not sure where you're from, but here in the States it's a way of giving a compliment.

"Wow, he's not even a Super Saiyan and he's ridiculously powerful!"

"Wow, he's not even a professional player and he's scored a ton of points."

"Wow, he's not even on steroids and he's lifting a world record."

Shit like that. Piccolo is obviously not a Super Saiyan (AKA he doesn't have an amazing special power-up to make him top tier), but he's progressed so much on his own that you would almost think he was.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

SSjin tier > Piccolo, therefore Piccolo is not in the league of the SSjins and even Trunks who was said to be in the league of Goku and Vegeta. Then later, Krillin said in order for Piccolo to reach the level of SSjin he needs to fuse with Kami to become Super Namek. That's what I'm getting.

 

[Cell]

Chapter: 346 (DBZ 152), P12.4
Kuririn: “He’s st-strong…! What kind of training did Piccolo do…And he’s not even a Su-Super Saiyan…”

It seems Krillin statement about Piccolo being so strong and not being a Super Saiyan suggest that Piccolo is not in the league of Goku/Vegeta/Trunks and need to fuse with Kami in order reach it and surpass it. So what do you think?

No. It doesn't suggest that at all. It almost suggests the exact opposite.

Piccolo's incredibly strong... and in Krillin's mind, that level of strength should only be reachable by something like a Super Saiyan... but Piccolo got there anyway, making him even more impressive.

 

[ahill1]

It's like if you see some woman fighting and say "wow she is really strong, and she's not even a man...". It implies she is fighting at a level only mens would be capable of.

 

[ahill1]

Chapter: 346 (DBZ 152), P12.4
Kuririn: “He’s st-strong…! What kind of training did Piccolo do…And he’s not even a Su-Super Saiyan…”

It seems Krillin statement about Piccolo being so strong and not being a Super Saiyan suggest that Piccolo is not in the league of Goku/Vegeta/Trunks and need to fuse with Kami in order reach it and surpass it. So what do you think?

No. It doesn't suggest that at all. It almost suggests the exact opposite.

Piccolo's incredibly strong... and in Krillin's mind, that level of strength should only be reachable by something like a Super Saiyan... but Piccolo got there anyway, making him even more impressive.

There are people who think Kuririn only stated that because Piccolo was beating up someone supposedly on the Super Saiyan's level (Android #20). Like if Piccolo being a SSJ tier was a misconception created by the false androids, whom should be opponents >> Trunks, which turned out to be wrong. If Kuririn saw Piccolo beating up such an opponent, then him being on the SSJs level should obviously come to his head. Here's the debater who brought this point (Voice_of_Reason):
http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/88/t2130576-android-19-weaker-stronger-than-frieza/7.htm

Whenever a Super Saiyan had revealed their Ki prior, characters are immediately shown to react to its sheer magnitude; when Piccolo reveals his Ki while getting ready to fight #20, there is no such reaction. Nor is he lumped with the power of the Super Saiyans later on, where the level of a Trunks that defeated Freeza is. It's easy to appear strong when beating a character that was presumed to be at a level only a SSJ could handle, but this scenario is not very different from Goku defeating the Ginyu Force and Krillin believing he could now beat Freeza with a power level of 5000.

What do you think of this point?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Chapter: 346 (DBZ 152), P12.4
Kuririn: “He’s st-strong…! What kind of training did Piccolo do…And he’s not even a Su-Super Saiyan…”

It seems Krillin statement about Piccolo being so strong and not being a Super Saiyan suggest that Piccolo is not in the league of Goku/Vegeta/Trunks and need to fuse with Kami in order reach it and surpass it. So what do you think?

No. It doesn't suggest that at all. It almost suggests the exact opposite.

Piccolo's incredibly strong... and in Krillin's mind, that level of strength should only be reachable by something like a Super Saiyan... but Piccolo got there anyway, making him even more impressive.

Hhmm... that does make sense I guess.

 

[ahill1]

Chapter: 346 (DBZ 152), P12.4
Kuririn: “He’s st-strong…! What kind of training did Piccolo do…And he’s not even a Su-Super Saiyan…”

It seems Krillin statement about Piccolo being so strong and not being a Super Saiyan suggest that Piccolo is not in the league of Goku/Vegeta/Trunks and need to fuse with Kami in order reach it and surpass it. So what do you think?

No. It doesn't suggest that at all. It almost suggests the exact opposite.

Piccolo's incredibly strong... and in Krillin's mind, that level of strength should only be reachable by something like a Super Saiyan... but Piccolo got there anyway, making him even more impressive.

Going back to this, do you think Kuririn's statement shows Piccolo is in the same league as the SSJs? I mean, if I say "You are pretty strong for someone who isn't a prefessional" -- it doesn't imply you are as good as the professionals, only powerful for someone who isn't, right?

 

[SSJPoo]

Piccolo(Current Era)= SSJ 2 Cell Gohan

 

[Evil Vegeta]

This is how I see it: Krillin is saying Piccolo is displaying a level of power that only a Super Saiyan should be capable of. Whether that means he's as strong as a Super Saiyan or weaker comes down to your own interpretation. The main takeaway is that he's doing something that shouldn't be possible for a non-Super Saiyan.

 

[SSJPoo]

This is how I see it: Krillin is saying Piccolo is displaying a level of power that only a Super Saiyan should be capable of. Whether that means he's as strong as a Super Saiyan or weaker comes down to your own interpretation. The main takeaway is that he's doing something that shouldn't be possible for a non-Super Saiyan.

Dikolo contains power?

Get off the dope.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

It quite depends. Kuririn can be refering to the Super Saiyan as a transformation (Thus is lumping Piccolo as a Super Saiyan, saying he too strong for someone who can't transform into an aryan) or as a power tier (Thus saying however Piccolo's strong, he is no Super Saiyan). Personally i lean toward to the first, considering other evidences like Piccolo's willingless on taking on guys who are >/>> Debut SSJ Trunks.

Whenever a Super Saiyan had revealed their Ki prior, characters are immediately shown to react to its sheer magnitude; when Piccolo reveals his Ki while getting ready to fight #20, there is no such reaction. Nor is he lumped with the power of the Super Saiyans later on, where the level of a Trunks that defeated Freeza is. It's easy to appear strong when beating a character that was presumed to be at a level only a SSJ could handle, but this scenario is not very different from Goku defeating the Ginyu Force and Krillin believing he could now beat Freeza with a power level of 5000.

The thing is that #20 actually is a foe that only a Super Saiyan could handle. While stomping the Android, Piccolo stated this:

Chapter: 347 (DBZ 153), P3.2-3
Piccolo: “It seems that in the original history, we were supposed to be wiped out by you two androids…But it looks like the future has changed somehow…Was it that you weren’t as strong as we thought?...Or have we grown too strong?...

He thinks it's possible the Z Fighters (Him and Vegeta to be more exact) have grown too strong, implying there possibly wasn't anything wrong with #20's power.
As for nobody being "ZOMG" for Piccolo's power up, that's not necessary at all. Piccolo's entrance is supposed to be a surprise for the reader. He spend most of his time without showing any indication his progress and then surprise! He's pummeling one of the supposedly fearsome Androids.
Btw, it's quite ridiculous to use such a minor thing as the lack of a reaction to disregard a feat and two statements.