Pilaf Saga to Baba’s Tournament

[Power Level Guy]

Pilaf Saga


Puar 1.5
Oolong 2
Pilaf 2
Shuu 3
Bulma 3
Launch 3
Mai 4
Rabbit Goons 5
Police Officers 5
Launch (Transformed) 7
Pterodon 15
Expected Goku 22.5
Bear Thief 30
Rabbit Boss 33
Krillin 35
Yamcha 45
Goku 50
Wolf Fang Fist 52.5 (~1.16x amp)
Ox King 150
Master Roshi 180



21st Tenkaichi Budokai

Strongman 28
Orin Temple Bully 40
Great Lee 44
Karate Bear 48
Lion Fang 54
Ran Fan 56
Yamcha 60
Bacterian 70
Wolf Fang Fist 70
Jackie Chun 70
Krillin 85
Jackie Chun 90
Giran 100
Krillen 120
Jackie Chun 120
Goku 135
Namu 175
Jackie Chun 180
Goku 180
Kamehameha 240
Oozaru Goku 1,800


Red Ribbon Army

RRA Soldiers 5
Colonel Silver 75
Ninja Murasaki 100
Krillin 120
Pirate Robot 140
General Blue 170
Bora 175
Sergeant Metallic 180
Goku 180
Goku (FP) 200
Goku (Zenkai) 240
Android 8 320
Tao Pai Pai 400
Tao Pai Pai (FP) 450
Dodonpa 500
Goku 500


Baba’s Tournament

Dracula 50
Invisible Man 55
Yamcha 60
Wolf Fang Fist 70
Krillin 120
Master Roshi 180
Mummy 200
Goku (vs Mummy) 300
Devil Man 330
Goku (vs Devil) 375
Gohan 480
Goku 500

 

[SSJ2]

Solid list. I thought Pirate Robot was a little close to Krillin, but it seems fitting after rereading it. Krillin broke it's weapon and dodged a couple attacks so it should probably be <80%.

Metallic is my only other gripe, as I don't like him being quite on 21st Roshi's level, but it's also not a huge deal.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Metallic is my only other gripe, as I don't like him being quite on 21st Roshi's level, but it's also not a huge deal.

How strong should he be? Goku does mention the Budokai and how much is he realistically holding back?

 

[Animelover5487]

Goku being at 90% like you have him seems about right to me. Initial Goku should have an advantage over Metallic. Goku would have won without the KHH if Metallic wasn't a robot.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Goku being at 90% like you have him seems about right to me. Initial Goku should have an advantage over Metallic. Goku would have won without the KHH if Metallic wasn't a robot.

I don’t know I see equal-ish feats occurring. Metallic seems just as capable as Goku for the most part.

 

[GSM123]

This should be called “Cell” because it’s perfect.

 

[Power Level Guy]

This should be called “Cell” because it’s perfect.

Haha. Well it's certainly getting there.

I'm interested in seeing what happens if I lower 21st Yamcha a bit and I also feel like I could see Tao/Gohan/Goku a bit stronger than they are.

Definitely starting to get it to a refined spot, this is a great list to tweak I feel.

 

[SSJ2]

I don’t know I see equal-ish feats occurring. Metallic seems just as capable as Goku for the most part.

He does look even, but I agree with Animelover that Metallic's durability helped him to make up for the gap. To me the force Goku outputted looked superior to Metallic's. Not by much but enough to have Goku slightly stronger.

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[Power Level Guy]

He does look even, but I agree with Animelover that Metallic's durability helped him to make up for the gap.

You aren't accounting for a Kick > Punch. The story has a lot of evidence showcasing this idea.

If you look at the entirety of the fight, it should be perfectly even I'd say.

It's no big deal to put Metallic at 175 though.

I can make the same arguments for Namu, he could be perfectly evenly with Roshi and Goku, but people like him to be slightly weaker out of personal preference.

But Namu = Goku and Metallic = Goku is totally valid.

 

[Animelover5487]

You aren't accounting for a Kick > Punch. The story has a lot of evidence showcasing this idea.

What showcases kick > punch?

 

[Power Level Guy]

What showcases kick > punch?

The fight with Buyon. Goku tries a punch and then says he will give it his best and chooses a kick that has far more force than the previous punch proving Kick > Punch.

which is directly in line with real life. Kicks are much harder than punches.

 

[GSM123]

And it's not just a kick, but a flying kick too. You can tell it's a heavy hit based on how the scene is drawn.

 

[Power Level Guy]

And it's not just a kick, but a flying kick too. You can tell it's a heavy hit based on how the scene is drawn.

Which is why Goku’s kick on Devil doesn’t necessarily have to be beyond 1.5x. The way it moves Metallic is very similar.

 

[GSM123]

I think Devil could be 1.5x Mummy, but then Goku would be less than 2x post Karin...

 

[Power Level Guy]

I think Devil could be 1.5x Mummy, but then Goku would be less than 2x post Karin...

I think Devil thinks he can beat a Goku who one shot Mummy.

That makes Devil 1.6x Mummy at minimum imo.

Yeah I’d say Post Korin Goku should probably be 2x Goku bare minimum.