PLG Power Level List

[Dagon]

Zero interest in anime scaling.

But you included the Cooler movies which are intrinsically anime.

I doubt Kuririn would call a battle power of over 10k "nothing special". Even relatively speaking.

You might have a point. It's just that when you get to gaps over 1.4x, that's typically when the stringer can totally blitz the weaker to the point that it's like the weaker is not even moving. Guldo would have been blitzed before he could hold his breath, shouldn't he?

 

[Power Level Guy]

But you included the Cooler movies which are intrinsically anime.

Very true, but my numbers for the movies are essentially completely headcanon. More of a “what if AT introduced these characters somehow” type of thing. TOEI scaling is typically not worth my time but some movies are cool.

 

[Animelover5487]

Yardrat Goku > CR Goku. I know that the movies are set in alternate timelines but the movie seems to take place almost right after Freeza's defeat on Namek, Goku can't even turn into a SSJ at will.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Yardrat Goku > CR Goku. I know that the movies are set in alternate timelines but the movie seems to take place almost right after Freeza's defeat on Namek, Goku can't even turn into a SSJ at will.

What is CR Goku?

 

[Papasmurf]

Cooler's Revenge

 

[Power Level Guy]

Yardrat Goku > CR Goku. I know that the movies are set in alternate timelines but the movie seems to take place almost right after Freeza's defeat on Namek, Goku can't even turn into a SSJ at will.

There's nothing wrong with Yardrat Goku = Cooler's Revenge, they are separate timelines.

 

[Animelover5487]

There's nothing wrong with Yardrat Goku = Cooler's Revenge, they are separate timelines.

I just don't think Goku is 2x stronger than he was on Namek. He still seems to be relatively new at SSJ and Freeza's defeat is still kind of recent.

 

[Power Level Guy]

I just don't think Goku is 2x stronger than he was on Namek. He still seems to be relatively new at SSJ and Freeza's defeat is still kind of recent.

Power is dependent on plot, not time, or anything else. Goku is stated to be stronger than since when he's arrived back on Earth. So we know he's significantly stronger.

Some people rationalize that Cooler is on par with Mecha Freeza, so you have to choose the narrative here. Did Cooler develop an entire new form all to be 1.2x his younger brother?

Yardrat Goku positions Cooler's final form to being moderately stronger than Freeza, while keeping his completely inferior.

I have Cooler at 1.25x Mecha Freeza and 66% of Yardrat Goku. Not sure if the sweet spot can get hit any better than that.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

What?

How did Trunks become even with Vegeta at the Cell-Games? Vegeta was still confident he’d win, before Goku showed him other-wise.

Also [SSJ2 Gohan >>> Perfect-Cell] > [Perfect-Cell > SSJs]

in-terms of gaps

 

[Power Level Guy]

Also [SSJ2 Gohan >>> Perfect-Cell] > [Perfect-Cell > SSJs]

in-terms of gaps

How did you come to this conclusion?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

How did you come to this conclusion?

I don’t know it’s just my impression. What about you?

 

[Power Level Guy]

I don’t know it’s just my impression. What about you?

Couldn't be further from mine.

Perfect Cell is a low tier SSJ2. The SSJs are nowhere close to Cell imo. Cell does a ginormous power-up from a level on par with Gohan already. It might be one of the biggest power-ups in the series. I think FP PC is a monstrous power.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Couldn't be further from mine.

Perfect Cell is a low tier SSJ2. The SSJs are nowhere close to Cell imo. Cell does a ginormous power-up from a level on par with Gohan already. It might be one of the biggest power-ups in the series. I think FP PC is a monstrous power.

Really? If Cell were to go full-power could he win easier vs SSJs than Gohan did vs him & replicate the things Gohan did? I don’t see it really.

 

[SSJ2]

Keep in mind how much weaker than Gohan the rest of the SSJs were. FP Cell would definitely one shot any of them.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Keep in mind how much weaker than Gohan the rest of the SSJs were. FP Cell would definitely one shot any of them.

What about Gohan himself though? I can’t see Cell’s power-level being above Gohan’s to the same extent.

 

[SSJ2]

It was close enough to SSJ2 Gohan for the much weaker Super Saiyans to not be certain of Gohan's superiority. They needed to see Gohan physically beat Cell to know where he stood, which tells me that Cell was much closer to SSJ2 Gohan than to SSJ Gohan.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

The way I saw it was that, for an analogy, fodder can’t see those way above them. It’s like looking at 2 sky-scrapers way above the skies, from the ground they can’t see even if the difference is obvious. The person above can because looking-down.

 

[SSJ2]

Yeah I agree with that... which is why I believe that is evidence for Cell being able to one shot them.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Really? Cell was over-confident though considering he thought he could win, despite being way below Gohan. He had Vegeta & Freeza’s cells too after-all.

 

[SSJ2]

There's no question that Cell was delusional about his own power, but the Z Senshi were not. Goku wasn't even able to tell how big the difference was between Gohan and Cell... To me that means that Cell must be a monster compared to SSJ Goku. It's like how Piccolo said Goku and Freeza were beyond their comprehension.