Power Levels TB22:

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Goku (Uranai Baba) = 1

TB22:

Rey Chapa = 1.32

Goku (vs Chapa) = 1.7424
(vs Krillin at first) = 1.8
(vs Krillin / first start) = 2
(vs Krillin at the end) = 3.6
(FP) = 5.76

Krilin = 1.76

Yamcha = 1.76
(Shin Roga Fufuken) = 2.112
(Kamehameha) = 2.2

Tenshinhan (Initial) = 1.82
(First On Yamcha) = 2.08
(Second Power against Yamcha) = 2.56
(Vs Roshi at the end) = 3.2
(Vs Goku at first) = 3.6
(FP) = 5.625

Tsuru = 2.88

Master Roshi (Initial) = 2.5
(Vs Tenshinhan at the end) = 3.2
(Hypothetical FP) = 3.52

Chaozu = 1.5
(Dodonpa) = 1.875

Arc Piccolo Daimaku:

Tsuru (Young) = 5.9
Roshi (Young) = 6
Mutaito = 7.03125

Goku (Post Zenkai) = 8
(Kamehameha) = 10
(Post Zenkai Piccolo Daimaku) = 11.75
(Post Water Gods / Initial) = 105.75
(less Suppressed) = 211.5
(less Suppressed) = 235
(FP) = 470

Piccolo Daimaku Old (8%) = 7.2
Old (40%) = 36
Old (100%) = 90
Young (40%) = 180
Young (100%) = 450

Piano = 0.64
Cymbal = 2
Tambourine = 5
Drum = 11

Yayirobe = 4.6875
(First ascent Karin Tower wing) = 6.5536
(Post Water Gods) = 8.192
(Second rise Karin Tower wing) = 10

Tenshinhan = 7.2

Guard Gigant King = 8.8

Master Karin = 10.48576

Mr. Popo = 2,250

Kami = 9,000
 

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Why such a "small" difference between Chapa-o and 21st Budokai Goku? You do have Chapa-o above post Karin Goku, right? Post Karin Goku was already many times stronger than his 21st Budokai self.
 

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Also, Tenshinhan (2nd power against Yamcha) was that he used against Shin Rogafufuken Yamcha, right? I don't think Tenshinhan was that above Yamcha's Shin Rogafufuken power... they both struggled, with Tenshinhan having the advantage at the end.
 

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ahill1 said:
Why such a "small" difference between Chapa-o and 21st Budokai Goku? You do have Chapa-o above post Karin Goku, right? Post Karin Goku was already many times stronger than his 21st Budokai self.

My terrible mistake, I mean Goku (tournament Baba).
 

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ahill1 said:
Also, Tenshinhan (2nd power against Yamcha) was that he used against Shin Rogafufuken Yamcha, right? I don't think Tenshinhan was that above Yamcha's Shin Rogafufuken power... they both struggled, with Tenshinhan having the advantage at the end.

It seems that after receiving Tenshinhan Shin Rogafufuken, easily increase their power to stop the attack and then counter Kamehameha.
 

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I think Tenshinhan increased his power when deflecting the Kamehameha. The Kamehameha was implied to be Yamcha's strongest technique.

Tenshinhan (against KHH) > Yamcha's KHH > Tenshinhan (against Rogafufuken) >= Yamcha (Shin Rogafufuken) > Tenshinhan (initially) = Yamcha (initially) IMO.
 

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ahill1 said:
I think Tenshinhan increased his power when deflecting the Kamehameha. The Kamehameha was implied to be Yamcha's strongest technique.

Tenshinhan (against KHH) > Yamcha's KHH > Tenshinhan (against Rogafufuken) >= Yamcha (Shin Rogafufuken) > Tenshinhan (initially) = Yamcha (initially) IMO.

And now that you think, you think:

  Goku (Initial against Krillin)> = Krilin (TB22)> Goku (vs. Rey Chapa)?
 

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Yeah, I think it's most likely Goku increased his effort initially against Kuririn than what it was against Chapa-o. It only seems a bit weird to Kuririn be able to handle Goku (vs Chapa-o), seeing that he was pretty impressed with Goku's power and Yamcha said it was a relief he did not has to fight against Goku or Jackie Chun.
 

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ahill1 said:
Yeah, I think it's most likely Goku increased his effort initially against Kuririn than what it was against Chapa-o. It only seems a bit weird to Kuririn be able to handle Goku (vs Chapa-o), seeing that he was pretty impressed with Goku's power and Yamcha said it was a relief he did not has to fight against Goku or Jackie Chun.

With your answer I can see you're a great debater. On the subject, Yamcha probably feel a relief not to face Goku, because Goku said he did not use all his power against King Chapa.

  Also in the sleeve when Krillin would face against Goku, Krillin got nervous, but then thought he had trained very hard these 3 years and had chances to defeat Goku.

  Still thinking about it very well, will diminish the gap between Krilin (TB22) on Goku (Vs Chapa), because Krilin got nervous after hearing that Goku say do not fight seriously against King Chapa.

Incidentally increases Goku Ps (Vs Chapa) and King Chapa.
 

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Good point about Yamcha hearing Goku saying he didn't use all of his power against Chapa-o.

So the gap between Kuririn (22nd Budokai) and Goku (post karin) should be pretty considerably, lol. But it explains why Kuririn and Yamcha were so sure of themselves in facing a 3 years trained Goku.

It seems a bit weird to me that Goku (post Karin's power) was treated as a great deal, but a few pages later was already trash,
 

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ahill1 said:
Good point about Yamcha hearing Goku saying he didn't use all of his power against Chapa-o.

So the gap between Kuririn (22nd Budokai) and Goku (post karin) should be pretty considerably, lol. But it explains why Kuririn and Yamcha were so sure of themselves in facing a 3 years trained Goku.

It seems a bit weird to me that Goku (post Karin's power) was treated as a great deal, but a few pages later was already trash,

Apparently confident that Goku (TB22) was >> Goku (Baba).

  I also remember that in a Krillin and Yamcha chapters on the plane said something like "We will show how powerful Goku we have become."
 

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By the way, another proof that Krilin / Yamcha (TB22)> Goku (Vs Chapa), is that Krillin was even more impressed with the initial battle between Tenshinhan against Yamcha that the fight between Goku against King Chapa.
 

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Describe the difference between Goku (TB22) on Goku (Baba):

  Roshi and Yamcha who witnessed how powerful it was Goku (Vs Son Gohan), but knowing that within those three years had progressed a good deal, plus he grew in stature, but still believed that against the King Chapa had no many possibilities. Therefore: King Chapa (TB22)> = Goku (initial estimate) >> Goku (tournament Baba).

  Goku then proved to be much stronger than expected, easily defeating King Chapa, therefore: Goku (Cancelled against King Chapa) >> Rey Chapa (TB22) >> Goku (tournament Baba).

  For the reasons shall now, Krillin / Yamcha (TB22) are slightly stronger than Goku (Vs Chapa).

Krillin does not seem to be nervous of the power of Goku, until the latter said he did not fight with all his might against the King Chapa, but had killed him. Therefore: Goku (Estimated Krilin)> / >> Goku (Vs Chapa).

Yamcha wanted may not stand against Goku, or YACKIE Chun, but Yamcha and Goku knew not fight seriously against King Chapa.

Also at the beginning of the battle between Tenshinhan vs Yamcha, Krillin looked more scared than the fight between Goku vs King Chapa. Yamcha> = Goku (Vs Chapa).

Before you start fighting Goku vs. Krillin, the latter tells Goku to fight with all his strength, knowing that Goku was> / >> Goku (Vs Chapa) and still Krilin thought I had some chances to win. It may be thanks to his tricks, but if Krillin was much lower than Goku, then his tricks would not be enough to defeat Goku.

When you start the fight between Goku vs. Krillin, the latter tells Goku with some astonishment "You're very Veils" I personally believe that the strength correlates with the speed, unless proven otherwise (for example Goku Weighted vs Tenshinhan). Therefore: Goku (Vs Krilin to top)> = Krilin (TB22)> Goku (Vs Chapa).

Later Goku says will fight more seriously, from that moment begins to beat for a relatively comfortable Krillin difference. Then Roshi says astonished "How powerful is to become Goku," Krillin rivaled even so this Goku.

Goku (Vs Krilin "more serious")> Goku (Vs Krilin to top)> = Krilin (TB22)> Goku (Vs Chapa).

Anyway I have a very small advantage of Krilin (TB22) on Goku (Vs Chapa).

Therefore: Goku (Vs Krilin End) >>> Goku (Vs Krilin "more serious")> Goku (Vs Krilin to top)> = Krilin / Yamcha (TB22)> Goku (Vs Chapa) >> Rey Chapa ( TB22) >> Goku (Tournament Baba).

  In the end, Goku initially use the same power he had used against Krillin at the end, but still, got a beating from Tenshinhan, when use all its power. So Goku decides to use all his power and that it recognizes that it is much higher still. Then it shows Goku (FP)> = Tenshinhan (FP) >>> Goku (Vs Krilin End / Vs Tenshinhan to top).

  Thus:

Goku (TB22)> = Tenshinhan (TB22) >>> Goku (Vs Krilin End) >>> Goku (Vs Krilin "more serious")> Goku (Vs Krilin to top)> = Krilin / Yamcha (TB22)> Goku (Vs Chapa) >> Rey Chapa (TB22) >> Goku (Tournament Baba).
 
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