pre-Fruit Tullece vs Monster Zarbon

[Fantastische Hure]

Who wins?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Regardless of whichever side you fall on regarding M3's powerscaling, nothing really contradicts Tullece being able to kill Oozaru Gohan with the Kill Driver, so at the very least you could assume it has a ridiculous amp. One hit from it and Zarbon's vaporised.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Regardless of whichever side you fall on regarding M3's powerscaling, nothing really contradicts Tullece being able to kill Oozaru Gohan with the Kill Driver, so at the very least you could assume it has a ridiculous amp. One hit from it and Zarbon's vaporised.

Do you think Tullece > Zarbon, though?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Honestly, M3's powerscaling is so screwed I don't even know anymore.

Tullece at first treats Oozaru Gohan (who should be at 100k) as no big deal and doesn't have much to say about Kaioken x2 Goku, yet starts to get cautious once Galu's power skyrockets past 30k. There's several ways in which to interpret the chain:

1. Goku's power skyrocketing means it far exceeds 30k, likely via a Toei rage boost or something, and Tullece ~ Base Enraged/Full Power Goku > Oozaru Gohan >> Kaioken x2 Goku.
2. Tullece isn't too far above 30k and like Vegeta, can amplify his power through a Ki attack. Tullece's Kill Driver > Oozaru Gohan >>> Tullece.
3. Similar to scenario 1, but perhaps Goku was using an invisible Kaioken or something (was freezamite right all along?!)
4. Toei retconned the Oozaru Gohan scaling segment (the lazy approach with the most holes).

I'd say regardless of which choice you pick though, Tullece would probably end up at least at 30k if not slightly higher, which is supported by the movie pamphlet iirc, so Tullece still wins via naturally superior fighting ability as a Saiyan, considering how quickly Zarbon's been shown to tire against an equal opponent of greater skill.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

And Vegeta who defeated Zarbon was only said to be almost at 30,000. So he's not even 30,000 to begin with.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

And Vegeta who defeated Zarbon was only said to be almost at 30,000. So he's not even 30,000 to begin with.

He was said to be "Over 30,000".

 

[Fantastische Hure]

And Vegeta who defeated Zarbon was only said to be almost at 30,000. So he's not even 30,000 to begin with.

He was said to be "Over 30,000".

Chapter: 275 (DBZ 81), P4.2
Context: Vegeta powers up to fight Recoom.
Jheese: "Hey, hey, Vegeta's battle power has risen up close to 20,000!" [original line]
Jheese: "Hey, hey, Vegeta's battle power has risen up close to 30,000!" [Kanzenban line]

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I was going by the anime statement wherein Jheese specified it was over 30k. My mistake.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I was going by the anime statement wherein Jheese specified it was over 30k. My mistake.

Well, I guess it makes more sense to put Tullece up against the anime counter-part anyway.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Monster Zarbon: Loses to ''almost 30k''.
Tullece: Keeps up with ''30k and skyrocketing''.
Tullece stomps.

 

[Pyro]

Tullece, regardless, should be around 35-40k bare minimum. He would pulverize Zarbon effortlessly.

 

[Flame]

Zarbon