PSSJB vs Kaioken gauntlet

[Animelover5487]

Is the Perfected Blue multiplier greater than all the Kaioken variations?:

1. Kaioken x2

2. Kaioken x3

3. Kaioken x4

4. Kaioken x5

5. Kaioken x10

6. Kaioken x20

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Being x2 SSB would suffice.

PS. Moved to the Super section due to not really being an actual battle discussion.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Ye.

The power-up was enough to bridge the gap between Merged Zamasu & Goku. A potara power-up.

The boost is insane.

 

[Animelover5487]

Being x2 SSB would suffice.

PS. Moved to the Super section due to not really being an actual battle discussion.

How do you explain Base Vegetto > SSJB then? Unless you use the argument that Vegetto wanted to erase Zamasu completely and leave nothing left of him behind, but even then if the gap between his lower forms and Zamasu was that huge he should have been able to do the same thing with SSJ or SSJ2 instead of using his most powerful form.

Hell, even with Blue he couldn't completely destroy Zamasu. It's debatable if he pulled of the Final KHH, but if the gap was that gigantic then he should have been obliterate Zamasu with regular punches and kicks.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

It's made pretty clear Vegetto didn't need SSB to stomp Zamasu based on the current arc, where someone at least as strong as Merged Zamasu was to the likes of Beerus. Vegetto likely only entered the form as he wanted to make sure he could negate Zamasu's immortality as much as possible, plus he was toying with Zamasu even more so than he did Boo throughout the fight.

 

[Animelover5487]

Then why didn't Vegetto use SSJ or SSJ2 against Zanasu? Why use Blue when he can do the same thing with a lower form? Against Boo he used only SSJ when he could have went up to 3 BECAUSE he was toying with Boo, which was made explicit.

As for the PSSJB Vegeta vs Beerus fight. I'd say PSSJB and MZ are between SSJ3 and SSJG Vegetto (with them being much closer to SSJ3). This makes Vegetto going to Blue make sense, as there was shown to be a huge gap between Goku's lower forms and the god forms in the Toppo fight, as well as give credibility to Blue Vegetto's statement of erasing Zamasu completely.

 

[Void]

I assume Vegetto thought he could just obliterate Merged Zamas with Blue. He wanted to use maximum power to try and overcome the immortality.

As for the topic, I use a 4x multiplier for PSSB.

 

[Pyro]

I could see it being 10-50x, personally. I think 2x is too small, and over 50x is just way too extravagant.

 

[Six Trails]

Is it any stronger? The wording just makes it sound like Goku can use 100% for an extended period of time. Given how fast Vegeta dropped to below 10%, maybe every time Goku and Vegeta were fighting in SSB it was just nowhere near 100%.