Pure Evil Boo vs Pure Boo

[SSJ2]

Then counter what I just posted. Don't understand what you want me to say when you know my stance.

 

[ahill1]

Well, that's RG96 points. I think they might help:

Mr. Buu pretty clearly did better against Pure Buu than, say, Nappa did against Goku, or Vegeta did against KK x3 Goku. Yet some people try to argue that the gaps were much, much closer in those cases. No joke, people are seriously trying to argue that a guy who got completely shit-stomped without even touching his opponent once is close to him, while another guy who actually managed to land hits and last a while isn't.

He only started getting "destroyed" after that long off-screen battle. And if you look at fights like Super Buu vs SS3 Gotenks, Cell vs SS Goku, or Freeza vs SS Goku, you'll see that the only reason those fights lasted any significant amount of time was long, non-combat pauses. If you take those out, the weaker fighter lost power even more quickly than Mr. Buu did. Again, Mr. Buu vs Pure Buu and SS3 Gotenks vs Super Buu are basically the same fight.

I seriously don't get this. What happened to the simple rule of "always assume full power"? "He was suppressed" doesn't work as an excuse when the fighter has zero reason to be suppressed, and either stated they weren't or showed that they wouldn't suppress themselves to that degree in a similar circumstance. It's the same story with Janemba vs Goku, Gogeta vs Janemba, Cell vs Piccolo, and 18 vs Vegeta. Anything to increase bloat and discredit the feats of a weaker fighter, I guess.

Again, look at SS3 Gotenks vs Super Buu. It's the same damn fight, down to Gotenks smiling and joking half the time, and beating the mother-loving shit out of Buu near the end. Yet no one is trying to argue for a x2 or x3 gap in that case. Nor do they argue a x3 gap for Nappa vs Goku or Vegeta vs KK x3 Goku or Goku vs suppressed Cell or 18 vs Vegeta, even though all of those battles were clearly more one-sided than this one.

Pure Buu mocks and jokes with his opponents while laughing even when facing someone equal to him. So that's not evidence of anything. AGAIN, if Pure Buu really was that much stronger, there wouldn't have been a fight.

He DOES put up a fight for several panels, landing three hits before the whole fight goes off-screen. Pure Buu smiles all the time, even when fighting someone equal to him. Smiling after he gets hit doesn't mean anything. This is like trying to claim he didn't use full power against SS3 Goku because he laughed the whole time, and did that dance when he was regenerating.

Again, read SS3 Gotenks vs Super Buu. It's the same damn fight. It's also less one-sided than Goku vs Cell, Nappa vs Goku, and other fights that you claim were even, or at least not as one-sided as this.

Yes, so? Fat Buu doesn't show "fear" at Vegeta's ki blast, just slight surprise (and makes no effort to move out of the way). While Pure Buu got angry with Mr. Buu at several points, Vegeta only managed to make Fat Buu angry by shooting a likely amplified attack at him while Buu was standing still. And he never once traded blows with Mr. Buu or made him cautious or fearful. He was immediately down for the count the first time Fat Buu threw a single attack.

Not to mention that, rather than being in pain, Fat Buu looks bored when Vegeta hits him, and explicitly says that his punches didn't do anything. By contrast, Mr. Buu's hits stun and hurt Pure Buu. But the gap still can't be THAT huge, since the blast WAS actually able to hurt Buu. A bit.

He got hit by one of Mr. Buu's blasts, and it blew off half his body. In other words, basically the same effect as when he blasted Mr. Buu. And no, his face was due to actual fear, since he saw the blast coming (look at his reaction before it zooms past him). If he was truly that much stronger, he would have let the blast hit him to no effect after he noticed it. But he didn't. He moved out of the way with a scared look on his face, then got pissed.

Why would he? He can tank anything Vegeta can throw at him.

Again, BS. He has zero reason to underestimate Mr. Buu after the initial ki blast. He clearly showed caution of that attack, showing that he knows how strong Mr. Buu is. And even if he didn't, he has zero reason to underestimate him after the headbutt. Yet after both of these, Mr. Buu is still holding his own.

If we're bringing the anime into this, then your position becomes even more implausible.

And you're only paying attention to the very end to claim he didn't put up a fight. Most of the fight is off-screen. But the initial exchange has Mr. Buu land three hits and Pure Buu land five, with their blows having roughly the same effect. That's not god-stompage.

Read SS3 Gotenks vs Super Buu again. It's the same damn fight.

Fat Buu got mad and blew steam. Every other time he got mad and blew steam, he powered up. Without exception. He then proceeded to split into two beings. One of these beings could put up a decent fight against Pure Buu, who was stronger than Fat Buu [vs Goku]). The other could stomp that being with more ease than Pure Buu could. This is like claiming that transforming into a Super Saiyan didn't make base Vegeta any stronger at the Cell Games.

Vegeta blew the legs off of a suppressed Pure Buu with a double-handed charged ki blast, and he blew a hole in Fat Buu with another amplified attack. In both cases, the Buus just sat there and let him fire, because they didn't expect it to be as strong as it was. In both cases, they're able to *bleep* him up with one hit afterwards. This is not remotely comparable to Mr. Buu blowing Pure Buu in half with a generic ki blast mid-battle, and then continuing to trade blows with him. By this logic, only of Goku's hits (the blast to the face) "damaged" Pure Buu, so Pure Buu is way stronger. Let's ignore that he blew off parts of his body twice (like Mr. Buu did), or that he landed hits that clearly gave Pure Buu pain (like Mr. Buu did).

And how does their initial exchange go? They charge at each other. Pure Buu kicks Mr. Buu. Mr. Buu recovers and headbutts Pure Buu. Pure Buu recovers, grabs Mr. Buu, and slams him into the ground. Mr. Buu fires a blast that takes off half of Pure Buu's body. Pure Buu uses a barrier-ki-punch thing to tear off Mr. Buu's head. They both regenerate. They charge at each other again. Pure Buu dodges Mr. Buu's punch, then elbows him. He jumps on Mr. Buu's back to put him in a headlock, but Mr. Buu gets him off. Mr. Buu choke slams Pure Buu into the ground with his tentacle. He follows up with a Candy Beam, but Pure Buu dodges it. Pure Buu shoots a ki blast that makes a hole in Mr. Buu's body. Mr. Buu regenerates. They enter one of those quick-punch panels. The fight then goes off-screen.

HE TRIED TO TURN GOKU INTO *bleep*ING CANDY! That's a one-hit-kill move that he wouldn't resort to unless he actually feared the power of who he was fighting. Super Buu and Fat Buu both used it like that, and you keep trying to argue that their behavior is relevant to Pure Buu.

^These are mainly his points.

 

[SSJ2]

First point is retarded. Goku vs Nappa was a fight of even blows and Goku saying it would take forever. Goku sure as hell couldn't hold off Nappa with just his legs. I'm not reading that fucking essay man. This topic requires nothing but common sense.

 

[ahill1]

First point is retarded. Goku vs Nappa was a fight of even blows and Goku saying it would take forever. Goku sure as hell couldn't hold off Nappa with just his legs. I'm not reading that fucking essay man. This topic requires nothing but common sense.

I don't know. Even Lightsworn conceded in the final lol.

 

[SSJ2]

I'd never concede to that theory. It'd not even a theory, it's a collection of lung cancer, ready to be injected into the right lung after reading it.

Randomfag is completely over-complicating something that is basic. Fat Boo is not shown to power up. Fat Boo splits and loses power. Good Boo forms at roughly 35-40% of Fat Boo's power. Good Boo is stronger than SSJ2 Vegeta. Good Boo performs well against Pure Boo due to being a Boo, giving him more of an advantage than he should have. Pure Boo is also exerting no effort as we can see him toying the whole time, even using his legs.

This is not rocket science and I don't get why you're so dead-set on accepting it. It's illogical and you know it.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Base Vegeta managed to survive a beating from Pure Boo, so unless Vegeta can survive punches from someone several hundred times stronger than him, I don't think we can always assume Pure Boo is at full power.

 

[ahill1]

I'd never concede to that theory. It'd not even a theory, it's a collection of lung cancer, ready to be injected into the right lung after reading it.

Randomfag is completely over-complicating something that is basic. Fat Boo is not shown to power up. Fat Boo splits and loses power. Good Boo forms at roughly 35-40% of Fat Boo's power. Good Boo is stronger than SSJ2 Vegeta. Good Boo performs well against Pure Boo due to being a Boo, giving him more of an advantage than he should have. Pure Boo is also exerting no effort as we can see him toying the whole time, even using his legs.

This is not rocket science and I don't get why you're so dead-set on accepting it. It's illogical and you know it.

Yea, I agree. You have a good point about Boo's smoke only being he expelling the evil.

But the problem is Mr.Boo performed better against Kid than against Grey.

 

[SSJ2]

Pure Boo allowed him to by toying. Pure Evil Boo didn't play around. What is the problem?

 

[Diamond Ryan]

I'd never concede to that theory. It'd not even a theory, it's a collection of lung cancer, ready to be injected into the right lung after reading it.

Randomfag is completely over-complicating something that is basic. Fat Boo is not shown to power up. Fat Boo splits and loses power. Good Boo forms at roughly 35-40% of Fat Boo's power. Good Boo is stronger than SSJ2 Vegeta. Good Boo performs well against Pure Boo due to being a Boo, giving him more of an advantage than he should have. Pure Boo is also exerting no effort as we can see him toying the whole time, even using his legs.

This is not rocket science and I don't get why you're so dead-set on accepting it. It's illogical and you know it.

Yea, I agree. You have a good point about Boo's smoke only being he expelling the evil.

But the problem is Mr.Boo performed better against Kid than against Grey.

It could be argued that Skinny Boo was serious against Mr. Boo, while Pure Boo was messing around with him.

 

[ahill1]

Pure Boo allowed him to by toying. Pure Evil Boo didn't play around. What is the problem?

According to RG96, Kid Boo didn't play around.

 

[SSJ2]

According to SuperSaiyan2, he is wrong.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Pure Boo didn't really appear to be taking the fight too seriously. Even before Mr. Boo started to lose stamina, Pure Boo was capable of taking him on with just his legs. Mr. Boo did land one or two hits, but Vegeta did also.

 

[Jeff Styles]

The only time Pure Boo took Good Boo serious was when he first saw him. After their first exchange, Good Boo admit to Hercules, he can't win. The only thing Pure Evil Boo did better than Pure Boo was blowing Good Boo's candy beam away as opposed to Pure Boo who have to dodge it,

 

[Classic Adamas]

According to SuperSaiyan2, he is wrong.

Zoro*

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Pure Boo oneshots.

 

[Classic Adamas]

Yeah, this fight is incredibly black and white.

 

[kriss-]

It's interesting to note that in Dragonball Z, whenever a characters battle power increases or decreases it is always noted; in this scenario, Super Boo's Chi is noted as increasing while he transforms into Buff Boo, but it is never noted that it decreased afterwards -even if it did, it was such a miniscule drop that Akira Toriyama did not feel that it was worth noting.

Under that knowledge, I'd say that Kid Boo takes this one.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

Pure Boo.

Pure Boo > Fat Boo > Pure Evil Boo.

Stated.

I know this, but one could argue that Fat Boo powered up before expelling Pure Evil Boo.

Also, see this thread, mainly RG96 points:

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/88/t2084254-ssj3-gohan-boo-saga-vs-grey-boo/

I think rg96 is clearly in the right

 

[SSJ2]

Pure Boo allowed him to by toying. Pure Evil Boo didn't play around. What is the problem?

According to RG96, Kid Boo didn't play around.

You were cringe-worthy in this thread.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

I have Grey Buu slightly stronger.