Raditz vs Phantom Saiyans

[Fantastische Hure]

those old filler saiyans from the past. either 1 of them fight.

who wins?

 

[Papasmurf]

I think they're weaker than the Saibamen. Even though the filler story didn't have much participation from Toriyama, it'd make little to no sense for Failcha and :Krillin to fight weaker opponents much later on.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I think they're weaker than the Saibamen. Even though the filler story didn't have much participation from Toriyama, it'd make little to no sense for Failcha and :Krillin to fight weaker opponents much later on.

that was at the start of their training with kami & mr. popo, right?!

 

[Papasmurf]

Yeah it was pretty early on in their training.

 

[SSJ3 Gothic]

I'd put the Phantom Saiyans at around 900 battle power, so it would take 2 on 1 to make this work. Raditz wins lolz.

 

[Pakl]

I have each at 1,500

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Considering the humans were able to seemingly last a minute or so against them, I'd probably place them below Raditz. For what it's worth, one of the old video games places them at 400-500, whereas a M3 pamphlet places them at 3,000 each. I'd probably say placing them closer to the 1,000 range is a better option, though.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

for wot it's worth all 4 of them together had a battle-power of 1,507, which is weird since that means they have got close to goku level so fast

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Yeah and the Saiyans did seem to scoff at it, though only due to it being the combined power of 4 people. That's not to say that each of the Saiyans were definitely above 1.5k.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

does this mean they were only half as high as raditz???

or a hyperbole???

or isn't it referring to raditz-level???

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also the daizenshuu calls them 2nd-rate saiyans, l0l

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Logically, it would mean they're only half as strong as Raditz, since Kami should have no idea of how powerful any other Saiyan is. Then again, this is Toei...

 

[Pakl]

But he knew Vegeta and Nappa were much stronger

 

[Captain Cadaver]

And by how much is highly speculative, since "much stronger" can mean as little as 1.5-2k.