Red Ribbon Army Saga Power Levels

[p123]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTpDZNHybl4

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Son Goku & Friends



Pterodactyl .015
Bear Bandit .018
Krillin .030
Yamcha .045
Ox King .100

Goku (W/o Tail) .040
~ W/ Tail .050
~ Great Ape .500

Master Roshi .125
~ Power Weighted .750
~ Power Weighted Kamehameha 1.000




21st Budokai Tenkaichi



Orin Temple Bullies .036

Yamcha .060
~ Wolf Fang Fist .070

Giran .090

Krillin (Initial) .075
~ Full Power .100

Namu .140

Goku (W/o Tail) .120
~ W/ Tail .150
~ Kamehameha .200
~ Great Ape 1.500

Jackie Chun (Initial) .080
~ Using Effort .100
~ Full Power .150
~ Kamehameha .200
~ Powered Weighted 1.000
~ Power Weighted Kamehameha 2.000




Red Ribbon Army Saga



Colonel Silver .075
Ninja Murasaki .100
Pirate Robot .120
Sergeant Metallic .125
Bora .130
General Blue .135
Android #8 .200

Goku (Muscle Tower) .160
~ Post Muscle Tower .180
~ Kamehameha .240

Tao Pai Pai (Initial) .350
~ Full Power .450

Goku (Post Korin Training) .500




Fortuneteller Baba's Tournament



Dracula Man .040
Invisible Man .050

Yamcha .060
~ Wolf Fang Fist .070

Krillin .100

Master Roshi .150

Mummy .175

Devil Man .300

Gohan .475

Goku (Initial) .275
~ Powered Up .350
~ Full Power .500

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Farmer is 0.05, right?

 

[p123]

Did you watch the video?

 

[ahill1]

Wow, that looks pretty damn awesome, really. I think it would look aesthetically better if you displayed a scouter kind of reading the fighter's battle powers. Check Vegetto1089's video, I know there's something like this.

What is your reasoning to have Bacterian > Yamcha? Not that it's wrong, just interested in your reasoning.

I'd say Kuririn 21st Budokai should be above Murasaki. Whilst Murasaki could press Goku a little with his brothers, he was still impressed when Goku jumped to the other side of that lake, wasn't he? Kuririn in the General Blue arc said jumping like that (jumping 20 meters in the Pirate's cave) wasn't something impossible for whoever has trained with Kame-Sen'nin, and then he proceeded to perform the same feat, although not as well as Goku. So even though you can't measure the distance in Murasaki's case, the fact that he even wondered whether Goku was a frog for jumping like that, I think jumping that much is just out of his abilities.

 

[p123]

Thanks. Yea, the thing Vegetto1089 does with the scouter is cool, but I can't go and take his stuff now can I?

Athletic feats don't necessarily always match up with ki. Goku and Krillen can push that giant rock further than Roshi, but Roshi can beat them both up, probably at the same time. I wouldn't complain if you had him a little less, it's within the general range either way.

 

[ahill1]

Yeah, but in that case it was suggested the feat of pushing up the rock doesn't match their chi, whereas there's nothing preventing their jumping ability from matching their battle power here. Besides, many things in Dragon Ball like Goku breaking the Budokai arena with a punch can be considered as athletic feat, yet we use that as an indication of one's standing. I'd have Kuririn noticeably stronger than Murasaki, although yeah, that shouldn't matter too much.

I agree with your Tao Pai Pai (initially) >> Akkuman. Goku pretty much speed blitzed and one shotted Akkuman when he decided to get serious, whereas Goku didn't seem that dominant against holding back Tao Pai Pai. Tao didn't even see that damaged and I think it's possible Goku was still kind of holding back against Akkuman when performing that oneshot feat. Given that, I think Tao's gap over Akkuman can be even bigger, but what you have may suffice.

All in all, they look rather good. Nothing more to say, I guess.

 

[p123]

That damn Tao Pai Pai gap is a rough one. Most undersell it. But it's one of the easier ones to dictate.

Goku can one shot Devil Man who can one shot Mummy. And Tao is a distance rival to Goku. It's a tremendous gap as suggested by Korin regarding the training he receives.

How do you feel about Roshi's numbers? I like them a lot. I like having the Kamehameha > Great Ape by a significant margin.

I also like how I set up the music with the Kamehameha blasts. Super cool.

Bacterian is taken out by a similarly leveled opponent in a less impressive fashion. Yamcha gets wind chopped, Bacterian gets one shot KO'd. That's all really.

 

[ahill1]

I'd like the gap between Roshi (BoDB) and Gyumao to be bigger honestly. Gyumao seems to treat him like a Demi God and their sole alternative to extinguish the fire iirc. But yeah, respect from a pupil to master can definitely be involved there.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Yep, it's all good. The format of the video is nice as well. My only complain would be Murasaki being = 21st Kuririn, but you already justified this to Ahill.

 

[p123]

Considering that Roshi needs to amp his power to 10x that of Ox King to extinguish the flame, I'd say that is pretty decent. I agree, I changed Roshi down last minute after a number of thoughts, thought it was too tight, but I rather have Ox King being a bit too strong, then weaker than Giran. Trying to show some respect to the legendary Ox King.

Thanks GS. I'll start "The Great Demon King Piccolo Saga" probably sometime next week. I'll have to get into damaged stats a bit, but yea. Looking forward to it. The finished product was worth the effort, but damn, it was a lot of work indeed.

 

[ahill1]

Upon fighting Roshi a little, Kuririn stated Roshi's power was overwhelmingly above his own power. You take that to mean Kuririn was hinting Roshi's reserves, right?

 

[p123]

Yes, of course. They were fighting otherwise evenly, he must have got a whiff at his true ability and broke mentally rather quickly after his last ditch effort didn't work.

 

[SSJ2]

Damn dude, I'm ony 2 mins in and I'm really liking the production quality. Using little clips from the anime makes the video much more entertaining as opposed to just using a still-shot of a character.

 

[p123]

Haha awesome man! I made it for die hard fans like us! I'm going to bring the epicness back to the story, I think I did a damn good job!

Let me know your full evaluation when you are done!

 

[SSJ2]

I'll say you well exceeded my expectations. Having done a video somewhat similar in the past, I know how tough the editing is. Great job dude. I couldn't find a single nitpick with your levels tbh.

 

[p123]

Great. And hopefully I keep up the whole way through. I'm really trying to make it super reasonable for fans. The Great Demon King Piccolo Saga is up next. I am working hard to showcase the epicness of early DB so it looks cool as fuck.

I really, really love the first Power Weighted Kamehameha with the music and the timing and I like Full Power Jackie Chun and Goku with fire behind them and their kids blast battle. The music is just perfect timing. When full power Tao's tree hits the ground the music is perfect too. I like to catch certain parts with the music just right. So much fun, I always wanted to have a cool as reference for DBZ numbers like this, looks like I'd have to make my own and yes it was time consuming as fuck! Two full days working non stop to get it done but next one will be much quicker.

 

[SSJ2]

Are you making these numbers fit into Z's?

 

[p123]

Yep

 

[Animelover5487]

Even going the decimal route still doesn't work with Z numbers since Roshi isn't light years below the other humans despite presumably going back into retirement after 22nd Budokai.

 

[p123]

Good thing I don't try to go with the scouter levels. These are fan made levels that are loosely based off of the manga. Not to be mistaken with guidebook or manga numbers.