Sagas/Arcs that go 100 chapters or over

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One-Piece:

East-Blue Saga (or Pre-Grand-Line if you want to call it that) - 100
Alabasta Saga - 118

DragonBall:

Freeza Saga - 135

Naruto:

Chūnin-Exams/Konoha Invasion arc - 106

Yu-Gi-Oh!:

Battle-City arc - 133

Bleach:

Soul-Society arc - 112 (going completely off the info on the wikia & double-checking the summary)

I know there's more but this is all I knew (well in One-Piece's case maybe I could go further but I'm not sure) and could be bothered to find in some cases.

Berserk Golden Age? Maybe?
 

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Chimera Ant Arc of Hunter X Hunter - 132 chapters

Falcon of the Millennium Empire Arc of Berserk - 130 chapters

Arrancar Arc of Bleach - 204 chapters (counting all of the war), or 108 chapters for the Fake Karakura Town Arc if separating Arrancar, Hueco Mundo and Fake Karakura Town into different arcs.

Quincy Blood War Arc of Bleach - 206 chapters

Fantastische Hure said:
well in One-Piece's case maybe I could go further but I'm not sure
There are many more you could use for that:

CP9 Arc - 139 chapters
Summit War/Whitebeard War Arc - 108 chapters
Pirate Alliance Arc - 148 chapters

If counting Zou and Whole Cake Island as one arc, then that's 101 chapters and if counting them and the Wano events as all part of the Yonko Arc, then the amount is far bigger.

Berserk Golden Age? Maybe?
Indeed. It has 102 chapters if counting the total amount (though recent prints of the manga treat the events with Guts' childhood as unnumbered and only have 94 numbered chapters).
 

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How long was Naruto's war arc? I heard that too was notoriously long.

About Hunter x Hunter arc can you give me a short pre-arc, arc & post-arc summary so I can see for myself?

Does DragonBall have like the least average amount of chapters out of any manga?
 

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Do you consider Gut's childhood part of that arc? Or just a separate short back-story? I guess it depends on whether Guts remembers his childhood in that arc or whether it's done in a Trunks extra-chapter way, where it's done without any connection to the present time-line like Trunks thinking about his time-line.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
How long was Naruto's war arc? I heard that too was notoriously long.
Forgot about that. If including the war in its entirety, then that'd be a 215-16 chapter arc.

About Hunter x Hunter arc can you give me a short pre-arc, arc & post-arc summary so I can see for myself?
As in for the arc in question, or for all the arcs?

Does DragonBall have like the least average amount of chapters out of any manga?
Most of the arcs aren't as large as they appear in the anime due to pacing, so that was probably a major factor in its reputation, though it's still a very long series.

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Do you consider Gut's childhood part of that arc? Or just a separate short back-story? I guess it depends on whether Guts remembers his childhood in that arc or whether it's done in a Trunks extra-chapter way, where it's done without any connection to the present time-line like Trunks thinking about his time-line.
It leads directly into the Golden Age and is the start of a long flashback succeeding the Black Swordsman Arc, not to mention the events of Guts' childhood being of the utmost significance to his character development in the Golden Age, so I'd count them as part of that arc.
 

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Sorry. I meant does DragonBall have the least average number of pages per chapter? I screwed-up. :troll :troll :troll

Nah, I just meant the arc you mention in Hunter x Hunter, like what happened in the arc before that, the arc you mentioned & the arc afterward (if you can tell me)?

Also anything in Hajime no Ippo?
 

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Sorry. I meant does DragonBall have the least average number of pages per chapter? I screwed-up. :troll :troll :troll
Thought it might be something like that, but no. There are plenty of manga series that have page counts per chapter that don't even go into the double digits on average, mainly episodic gag manga. DB probably has one of the shortest averages in the vacuum of long-running battle Shonen, though there are other contenders such as Kinnikuman having a similar average until its later arcs.

Speaking of Kinnikuman, that's another one for the list, with its Scramble for the Throne Arc lasting 114 chapters.

Also, Sakigake!! Otokojuku's Tencho Gorin Daibukai Arc, which lasted 159 chapters.

Nah, I just meant the arc you mention in Hunter x Hunter, like what happened in the arc before that, the arc you mentioned & the arc afterward (if you can tell me)?
Without outright spoiling it, the conclusion of the Greed Island Arc leads directly into the early events of the Chimera Ant Arc. The Election Arc that succeeds it deals with the aftermath of the Chimera Ant events such as the major losses for the main cast from the arc, though there is a little breathing space between the two arcs compared to Greed Island and Chimera Ant's connectivity.

Also anything in Hajime no Ippo?
Ippo doesn't really have any major arcs as far as I'm aware, mainly following a formula of introduction, build up and battle between all its individual fights as their own thing.
 

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So is it like the 22nd TB ending directly leading to the Piccolo-Daimao saga? Like no time-skip and stuff.

Doesn't HnI have mostly tournament arcs or big fights? Wouldn't they last quite a bit?
 

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So is it like the 22nd TB ending directly leading to the Piccolo-Daimao saga? Like no time-skip and stuff.
That's probably the best analogy of it, yes.

Doesn't HnI have mostly tournament arcs or big fights? Wouldn't they last quite a bit?
It does, though each big fight is essentially treat as its own arc going by the wiki, with the longest seldom lasting more than 30 chapters, and even combining some of the arcs due to tournaments would still have the biggest arcs being at around 50-60 chapters at most.
 

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I'm good with going with wikia but sometimes I think the way I divide arcs/sagas are different.

How long was Pain in Naruto?
 

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How long was Pain in Naruto?
The Pain's Assault Arc was 40 chapters. Whilst you could include his introduction in the Tale of Jiraiya the Gallant Arc, there's the Itachi VS Sasuke events in between those that are their own separate thing, so I'd say doing such would be difficult.
 

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Yeah, I looked at the wikia and vaguely remember. During Sasuke vs Itachi arc, wasn't there anything relating to Naruto or Pain? Like not even quick cutaways to their plot-lines? Would seem weird other-wise. Other than that I guess you could just take out the middle bit with Sasuke & Itachi.

Why have arc lengths been declining? Minimum used to be like ~25 chapters. Nowadays you'd be lucky if the any of the new series would have an arc that hit 10 chapters.
 

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During Sasuke vs Itachi arc, wasn't there anything relating to Naruto or Pain? Like not even quick cutaways to their plot-lines? Would seem weird other-wise. Other than that I guess you could just take out the middle bit with Sasuke & Itachi.
The most there was iirc was Naruto finding out about Jiraiya's death towards the end and leading directly into the Pain's Assault Arc. I'd say merging the arcs together wouldn't work when Itachi was clearly the main focus of it and the arc preceding Jiraiya's.

Why have arc lengths been declining? Minimum used to be like ~25 chapters. Nowadays you'd be lucky if the any of the new series would have an arc that hit 10 chapters.
I wouldn't say they've been outright declining, as a lot of older series still had pretty short arcs, even if mainly for their introductory stages and epilogues such as most of Hokuto no Ken prior to Rei's introduction, the pre-Chojin Olympics events of Kinnikuman, the finale of Sakigake!! Otokojuku, etc.

It does seem that most modern series do have a greater tendency to have shorter, slightly self-contained arcs that usually have little impact on the plot beyond introducing new characters though. This is likely due to how the attitude of the companies have changed and how "creators" monopolise on it. A series which you can just keep milking by keeping impact on the characters or the world as a whole minimal is far more beneficial for needlessly extending a series than having one with a clear objective or limits to make the endgame known and not completely out of sight. As an example, Hokuto no Ken made it apparent that Raoh was the final hurdle ever since his introduction and Kenshiro being able to stalemate him in their first battle set the precedent that the series couldn't be stretched on needlessly (until the timeskip, but we will not speak of that filth). Meanwhile, something such as My Hero Academia or Black Clover will just waste time extending the plot with repetitive mini-bosses even if they make the ultimate goal present early on.

In other words, to the modern mangaka, why bother having the main cast get closer to facing their Freeza when you can just have them face an endless recycling of Cuids, Dodorias and Zarbons? :troll
 

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I looked into Hokuto no Ken awhile back and saw that the anime divided the series by parts & each part could be considered an arc, I guess. The first arc, Shin arc seemed to be 25 chapters or so.
 

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And I meant like taking out the Itachi arc and just putting together Jiraiya vs Pain & Naruto vs Pain arc. :troll :troll :troll
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
I looked into Hokuto no Ken awhile back and saw that the anime divided the series by parts & each part could be considered an arc, I guess. The first arc, Shin arc seemed to be 25 chapters or so.
The Shin Arc is a very different case in both mediums as the anime wanted to make Shin the big bad of the series' initial events rather than just one of the several major villains Kenshiro faced in the early series. Manga-wise, his arc only lasts about 10 chapters or so.

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And I meant like taking out the Itachi arc and just putting together Jiraiya vs Pain & Naruto vs Pain arc. :troll :troll :troll
It's possible, but taking out the Itachi Arc and giving Pain precedence would still be a bit disjointed when, in retrospect, Itachi had more of an impact on the series than Pain did.
 

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True perhaps the author could have just done a separate companion Sasuke mini-manga where the Itachi arc takes place. Probably took the momentum out of the Pain arc. I don't know why he couldn't have waited until the Pain arc was completely over. Maybe he just didn't want to.
 

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True perhaps the author could have just done a separate companion Sasuke mini-manga where the Itachi arc takes place. Probably took the momentum out of the Pain arc. I don't know why he couldn't have waited until the Pain arc was completely over. Maybe he just didn't want to.
I'd say it would've made more sense to have both the Itachi Pursuit Arc and Itachi fight as one arc and leave Jiraiya VS Pain for after it.

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Would each JoJo series count as a saga?
Maybe for Parts 1 and 2. For the rest, they're usually categorised as having multiple mini-arcs and even if overlooking that, each one has clear changes in direction that would separate most of them into at least 2-3 primary arcs.
 

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