Saiyan saga Kamehameha

[freezamite]

When P123 insulted you,i stood by your side.
Now i guess it was a mistake

When p123 insulted me he was the only one that had been owned, now you've been owned too and that's the difference.
Care to explain to me why the brutal hits Cell gave to Piccolo didn't affect Piccolo according to you? An explanation based on the manga if it's possible. Thanks.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

I am Ahri

Your argument is invalid

 

[freezamite]

I am Ahri

Your argument is invalid

Called it.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

show me

Wha... just look a few posts above.

ah....ok
I ain't gonna marry you

I'm not talking about that. I explained why the blasts' amplifiers don't have to be multifold and, therefore, Cell doesn't have to be 5x Kamiccolo.

 

[p123]

Original Kamehameha 1.33x
Super Kamehameha 1.5x

Kaioken Kamehameha 1.25x

I think blast amplification is drastically overrated and unnecessary the way AT used them. I offer a much more realistic version.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Original Kamehameha 1.33x
Super Kamehameha 1.5x

Kaioken Kamehameha 1.25x

I think blast amplification is drastically overrated and unnecessary the way AT used them. I offer a much more realistic version.

I don't think you have to reduce KHH boost when fired with kaioken. Just increase Vegeta's gallick gun.

 

[p123]

Then explain Goku's KHH against 50% Freeza dummy.

 

[ahill1]

That was quick charged. Not disagreeing with you though.

 

[p123]

It was everything he had. Goku wasn't capable of anything more imo, besides the beating he took of course.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Then explain Goku's KHH against 50% Freeza dummy.

Goku had lost considerable power. Freeza states he's out of breath, then gives him more beating.

Goku
-max: 100
-out of breath: 90
-more spanking: 80
-20x KK/KHH: 2.400

50% Freeza: 2.350

 

[p123]

Where has it been suggested that you are not capable of a full power blast when weakened?

The ki that's being amplified is the amount of ki needed for the total blast, not the user's power level.

For example.

Vegeta 100
Amount of Ki Used for a Final Flash 50

Final Flash 200

It's actually a 4x amplification, not a 2, and Vegeta can do 2 Final Flashes at full power.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

But, it has been stated many times that, when the user is not at full power, the blast isn't either (ex. King Piccolo's blast).

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Goku was at full-power. His power didn't drop until after he used the KMHMH.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Since Piccolo thought Cell's KMHMH was ass because it was from Saiyan saga Goku, it makes me wonder how much stronger it got after absorbing the humans and further.

Definitely one of the biggest plot power up of all time.