Sanji (post-time-skip) vs Lucci

[Fantastische Hure]

Ahil1's Challenge full-filed. Even-though I don't even know Lucci.

Who wins?

 

[Pocket-God]

Sanji takes this easily, Lucci is far weaker than a Pacifista which Sanji was able to one-shot in the first arc post-time skip. Unless this is post-time skip Lucci as well then Lucci probably stomps instead.

 

[SSJ2]

Didn't it take Sanji AND Zoro to one shot the pacifista?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

They both thought they dealt the blow.

 

[Pocket-God]

Did it? I thought they both one-shot their own ones.

 

[ahill1]

Didn't it take Sanji AND Zoro to one shot the pacifista?

It did, but Sanji's kick was already enough to screw the Pacifista from above. Plus, considering Luffy's jet pistol was also enough to completely destroy one and that Franky Shogun could withstand attacks that, according to Baby 5 could kill a Pacifista, Sanji should be able to do the same even without Zoro aiding him.

As for the topic, if it's pre TS Lucci, Sanji oneshots. As for post TS, it seems Lucci blocked one of Sabo's attack (in the movie) using more or less the same amount of effort Burgess did to block an attack of similar nature, so I'd say post TS Lucci's at least as strong as Burgess while on his hybrid form, in which case... dunno, since I don't know how Burgess scales to Sanji

 

[SSJ2]

They both thought they dealt the blow.

Exactly. "Thought"

 

[Fantastische Hure]

They both thought they dealt the blow.

Exactly. "Thought"

I guess it doesn't really matter, if Lucci was below a Pacifista by a-lot, then it probably means he's fodder to them post-time-skip either-way. Doesn't matter who dealt the blow.

 

[ahill1]

Yeah, based on Luffy being pretty exhausted after the fight (against the Pacifista) to the point of wishing to take a break and based on the fact that everyone of the crew worked together as a way to bring the Pacifista down (with Zoro, Sanji and Luffy landing the final blows), I think a Pacifista should be placed comfortably ahead Lucci, who was already struggling against a gear second from a potentially weaker Luffy.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Yeah, based on Luffy being pretty exhausted after the fight (against the Pacifista) to the point of wishing to take a break and based on the fact that everyone of the crew worked together as a way to bring the Pacifista down (with Zoro, Sanji and Luffy landing the final blows), I think a Pacifista should be placed comfortably ahead Lucci, who was already struggling against a gear second from a potentially weaker Luffy.

Did Luffy use his gears against the Pacifista as-well?

 

[ahill1]

Yep. He used his gear second and then smashed him with a gear third in a moment where the Pacifista had been already considerably damaged.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

If we're taking Film Gold Lucci's feats into account for his post-timeskip self, he stomps due to his clash with Sabo showing his Leopard Hybrid form is at least comparable to Burgess.

If it's pre-timeskip Lucci, he gets oneshotted.

 

[ahill1]

If we're taking Film Gold Lucci's feats into account for his post-timeskip self, he stomps due to his clash with Sabo showing his Leopard Hybrid form is at least comparable to Burgess.

If it's pre-timeskip Lucci, he gets oneshotted.

But can we say for sure that Burgess is way stronger than Sanji?

 

[SSJ2]

The top captain of a Yonko crew would surely be above what Sanji has displayed so far. Luffy at his absolute maximum is on that tier.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Burgess, whilst being stomped by Sabo, could at least put up an even fight when the latter was confined to the limits of the Corrida Colosseum. Sanji's definitely not matching that feat when his best feats place him no higher than Gear 2nd Luffy's level.

 

[ahill1]

My memory of the fight might be iffy, but at least from what I remember, in the Coliseum Corrida, Sabo blocked one of Burgess' attacks without much problem, with the scene being even dragged out in the anime for obvious purposes.

But yeah, one could argue that Burgess is > Gear Third Luffy due to expecting to win the Tournament even after watching Goku's fight against Don Chinjao, in which he used his Elephant Gun.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

My memory of the fight might be iffy, but at least from what I remember, in the Coliseum Corrida, Sabo blocked one of Burgess' attacks without much problem, with the scene being even dragged out in the anime for obvious purposes.

But yeah, one could argue that Burgess is > Gear Third Luffy due to expecting to win the Tournament even after watching Goku's fight against Don Chinjao, in which he used his Elephant Gun.

:rock :rock :rock

 

[Captain Cadaver]

My memory of the fight might be iffy, but at least from what I remember, in the Coliseum Corrida, Sabo blocked one of Burgess' attacks without much problem, with the scene being even dragged out in the anime for obvious purposes.

Burgess still took a Kaen Ryu from Sabo at point blank and was capable of staying in the fight until Sabo used Hiken. Meanwhile, Sanji's leg broke just by making impact with Vergo's in Punk Hazard and he was toyed with by Doflamingo who's comparable to Sabo, likely weaker.

But yeah, one could argue that Burgess is > Gear Third Luffy due to expecting to win the Tournament even after watching Goku's fight against Don Chinjao, in which he used his Elephant Gun.

That's a decent thought, though I doubt it'd necessarily prove Burgess > G3 Luffy when Luffy not using it straight away would suggest to Burgess the Elephant Gun was a last resort technique, not to mention Luffy being at the disadvantage of trying to maintain his disguise.

 

[ahill1]

My memory of the fight might be iffy, but at least from what I remember, in the Coliseum Corrida, Sabo blocked one of Burgess' attacks without much problem, with the scene being even dragged out in the anime for obvious purposes.

But yeah, one could argue that Burgess is > Gear Third Luffy due to expecting to win the Tournament even after watching Goku's fight against Don Chinjao, in which he used his Elephant Gun.

:rock :rock :rock

I am so used to say Goku that I didn't even notice

Might be because Goku and Luffy are kind of alike as well :dawae

 

[ahill1]

A fun thought: do you guys think that Sabo's Hiken is somehow stronger than Ace's? If it isn't, I don't know why it'd scale as one of Sabo's strongest attacks when pre TS Ace should likely be done in by even gear third Luffy...