Scale for Cell-Saga (fill-in)

[Fantastische Hure]

I didn't write Super-Saiyan every-time, because that was too much but you know anyway.

Super-Saiyan Goku (Namek) - 1

Future Time-Line:

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Future Gohan -
- before he lost his arm -

Future Trunks -

Future #17 -
- (<50%) -

Future #18 -

Freeza's Return:

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Goku -

Trunks -

Mecha-Freeza -

King-Cold -

3 Years later:

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Goku -

Vegeta -

Trunks -

Piccolo -
- post-Kami (weighted) -
- post-Kami -

Android #19 -

Android #20 -

Android #18 -

Android #17 -

Android #16 -

Cell -
- post Human absorptions -
- 2nd Form (Initial) -

Post-RoSaT:

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2nd Form Cell -
- Initial -
- Perfect-Form (initial) -
-Perfect-Form (initial; powered-up)

Vegeta -
- Super-Saiyan Grade-II -
- Super-Saiyan Grade-III (hypothetical) -

Trunks -
- Super-Saiyan Grade-II -
-Super-Saiyan Grade-III -

Cell-Games:

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Gohan
- Super-Saiyan 2 -

Cell -
- vs Goku -
- Power-Weighted -
- post-Zenkai -

Goku -

Vegeta -

Trunks -

Piccolo -

Cell Jr. -

 

[ahill1]

No way I'm doing all that.

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Future Time-Line:


Future Gohan - 1.25
- before he lost his arm - 0.96

Future Trunks - 1.4

Future #17 - 2.75
- (<50%) - 1.1

Future #18 - 2.5


Freeza's Return:


Goku - 1.6

Trunks - 1.4

Mecha-Freeza - 1.05

King-Cold - 0.7


3 Years later:


Goku - 2.4

Vegeta - 2.5

Trunks - 2.2

Piccolo - 1.9
- post-Kami (weighted) - 3.3
- post-Kami - 3.8

Android #19 post - 1.5

Android #20 post - 1.65

Android #18 - 3.3

Android #17 - 3.7

Android #16 - 7.5

Cell - 2.75
- post Human absorptions - 7.5
- 2nd Form (Initial) - 15


Post-RoSaT:


2nd Form Cell
- Initial - 15
-powered up - 18
- Perfect-Form (initial) - 25
-Perfect-Form (initial; powered-up) - 54

Vegeta - 16
- Super-Saiyan Grade-II - 27
- Super-Saiyan Grade-III (hypothetical) - 70

Trunks - 15
- Super-Saiyan Grade-II - 25
-Super-Saiyan Grade-III - 65


Cell-Games:


Gohan - 125
- Super-Saiyan 2 - 375

Cell - 54
- vs Goku - 110
-vs Gohan - 125
-full power - 210

- Power-Weighted - 270
- post-Zenkai - 350



Goku - 100

Vegeta - 70

Trunks - 67.5

Piccolo - 55

Cell Jr. - 75

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Super-Saiyan Goku (Namek) - 1

Future Time-Line:

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Future Gohan - 1.8
- before he lost his arm - 1.3

Future Trunks - 1.9

Future #17 - 3.5
- (<50%) - 1.6

Future #18 -3.85

Freeza's Return:

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Goku -

Trunks -2

Mecha-Freeza - 1.1

King-Cold -0.8

3 Years later:

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Goku -

Vegeta - 3.4

Trunks - 3

Piccolo - 2.5
- post-Kami (weighted) - 3.9
- post-Kami - 4

Android #19 - 2

Android #20 - 2

Android #18 - 3.8

Android #17 - 4

Android #16 - 7

Cell -
- post Human absorptions - 7
- 2nd Form (Initial) -

15


Post-RoSaT:

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2nd Form Cell - 15
- Initial - 15
- Perfect-Form (initial) - 40
-Perfect-Form (initial; powered-up) 70

Vegeta -
- Super-Saiyan Grade-II - 25
- Super-Saiyan Grade-III (hypothetical) - 60

Trunks -
- Super-Saiyan Grade-II - 25
-Super-Saiyan Grade-III - 60

Cell-Games:

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Gohan- 160
- Super-Saiyan 2 - 425 with rage boost

Cell -
- vs Goku - 180
- Power-Weighted - 400
- post-Zenkai - 425

Goku - 160

Vegeta - 90

Trunks - 90

Piccolo - 70

Cell Jr. - 100

 

[Animelover5487]

Super-Saiyan Goku (Namek) - 1

Future Time-Line:

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Future Gohan - 1.495
- before he lost his arm - 1.15

Future Trunks -1.56

Future #17 - 3.15
- (<50%) - 1.26

Future #18 - 3

Freeza's Return:

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Goku - 1.75

Trunks - 1.56

Mecha-Freeza -1.04

King-Cold - 0.52

3 Years later:

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Goku - 2 (Sick) and 3 (Healthy)

Vegeta -3.15

Trunks - 2.75

Piccolo - 2.3
- post-Kami (weighted) - 4.14
- post-Kami - 4.6

Android #19 - 1.5 (Pre) and 1.875 (Post)

Android #20 - 1.725 (Pre) and 2 (Post)

Android #18 - 4.275

Android #17 - 4.5

Android #16 -6.9

Cell -3.5
- post Human absorptions -7
- 2nd Form (Initial) - 10.5

Post-RoSaT:

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2nd Form Cell -14
- Initial -10.5
- Perfect-Form (initial) -17.5
-Perfect-Form (initial; powered-up) -30

Vegeta -12.6
- Super-Saiyan Grade-II -18.9
- Super-Saiyan Grade-III (hypothetical) -37.8

Trunks -12
- Super-Saiyan Grade-II -18
-Super-Saiyan Grade-III -36

Cell-Games:

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Gohan -100
- Super-Saiyan 2 - 200

Cell
- vs Goku -85
- vs Gohan - 100
- Full Power -125
- Power-Weighted -150
- post-Zenkai -180

Goku -75

Vegeta -52.5

Trunks -50

Piccolo -40

Cell Jr. -55

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Thank you al of you. Very interesting.

Last time I did a scale like that Gohan ended-up at-least tens of thousand times higher than Namek Saga Goku.

 

[GSM123]

SSJ Goku: 1

The future
SSJ Gohan: 1,6
Two arms: 1,06

SSJ Trunks: 1,6

Future 17: 3,33
40%: 1,33

Future 18: 3,33

Freeza's return
SSJ Goku: 1,8

SSJ Trunks: 1,6

Cyborg Freeza: 1,06

King Cold: 0,8

3 years later
SSJ Goku: 3,2

SSJ Vegeta: 3,33

SSJ Trunks: 3

Piccolo: 2,66
Weighted +Kami: 4,8
Full Power: 5,33

N° 19 post: 1,86
N° 20 post: 2,13
N° 18: 4,8
N° 17: 5,33
N° 16: 13,33

Cell: 3,84
Post humans: 13,33
2nd form: 26,66

Post Rosat
2nd form Cell: 26,66
Full Power: 40
Complete, Warming up: 106

Vegeta/Trunks: 0,53
SSJ Vegeta/Trunks 26,66
SSJG2 Vegeta/Trunks: 53,33
SSJG3 Trunks: 12

Post Rosat
SSJ Gohan: 432
SSJ2: 2,160

Cell (@Goku): 320
@Gohan: 432
Full Power: 960
Power Weighted: 1,440
Post Self Destruct: 1,920

SSJ Goku: 288

SSJ Vegeta/Trunks: 186

Piccolo: 160

Cell Jr: 200

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

SSJ Goku: 1

The future
SSJ Gohan: 1,6
Two arms: 1,06

SSJ Trunks: 1,6

Future 17: 3,33
40%: 1,33

Future 18: 3,33

Freeza's return
SSJ Goku: 1,8

SSJ Trunks: 1,6

Cyborg Freeza: 1,06

King Cold: 0,8

3 years later
SSJ Goku: 3,2

SSJ Vegeta: 3,33

SSJ Trunks: 3

Piccolo: 2,66
Weighted +Kami: 4,8
Full Power: 5,33

N° 19 post: 1,86
N° 20 post: 2,13
N° 18: 4,8
N° 17: 5,33
N° 16: 13,33

Cell: 3,84
Post humans: 13,33
2nd form: 26,66

Post Rosat
2nd form Cell: 26,66
Full Power: 40
Complete, Warming up: 106

Vegeta/Trunks: 0,53
SSJ Vegeta/Trunks 26,66
SSJG2 Vegeta/Trunks: 53,33
SSJG3 Trunks: 12

Post Rosat
SSJ Gohan: 432
SSJ2: 2,160

Cell (@Goku): 320
@Gohan: 432
Full Power: 960
Power Weighted: 1,440
Post Self Destruct: 1,920

SSJ Goku: 288

SSJ Vegeta/Trunks: 186

Piccolo: 160

Cell Jr: 200

Weighted Piccolo rivals 17 and 18 iirc. And why Grade 3 Trunks is so weak? I take it as mistake...

 

[Animelover5487]

Thank you al of you. Very interesting.

Last time I did a scale like that Gohan ended-up at-least tens of thousand times higher than Namek Saga Goku.

What do you think of my numbers? I know the gaps may be a little too tight for you but I go with a somewhat minimalistic view while still giving out reasonable numbers that fits into the narrative.

 

[ahill1]

And I thought I'd be the one with the smaller gap between Cell Games Gohan and Namek Goku.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Thank you al of you. Very interesting.

Last time I did a scale like that Gohan ended-up at-least tens of thousand times higher than Namek Saga Goku.

What do you think of my numbers? I know the gaps may be a little too tight for you but I go with a somewhat minimalistic view while still giving out reasonable numbers that fits into the narrative.

They look good. When I do numbers, they'd actually look quite similar to them.

Only thing is I'd make the Super-Saiyan 2 boost higher than Super-Saiyan Grade-II and Grade-III combined (so if you stack them on-top of another), and raise Cell a bit higher.

I'd also make the gap between 1st Form Cell (post-absorption) and Piccolo bigger. It just seemed like a huge gap, but I know that you don't like making characters excessively strong so that's ok.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

CG Gohan's SSjin2 boost should be exclusive to him since it's not just an ordinary SSjin2 but with his rage as well.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

CG Gohan's SSjin2 boost should be exclusive to him since it's not just an ordinary SSjin2 but with his rage as well.

You shouldn't say should. It's not a fact, but a possibility. My whole thing is if Gohan had an extra-boost on top of Super-Saiyan 2 that makes the debut of the form that surpasses Super-Saiyan (something the whole saga had been building up-to) less important. You could say Gohan's anger helped him reach the form.

 

[ahill1]

Thank you al of you. Very interesting.

Last time I did a scale like that Gohan ended-up at-least tens of thousand times higher than Namek Saga Goku.

Could you display your gaps?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

CG Gohan's SSjin2 boost should be exclusive to him since it's not just an ordinary SSjin2 but with his rage as well.

You shouldn't say should. It's not a fact, but a possibility. My whole thing is if Gohan had an extra-boost on top of Super-Saiyan 2 that makes the debut of the form that surpasses Super-Saiyan (something the whole saga had been building up-to) less important. You could say Gohan's anger helped him reach the form.

The Boo arc proved it. SSjin2 Gohan =/=SSjin2 Enrage Gohan.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Thank you al of you. Very interesting.

Last time I did a scale like that Gohan ended-up at-least tens of thousand times higher than Namek Saga Goku.

Could you display your gaps?

One of the ones I did. Haven't double checked everything though. I did like a lot though with the same template, just cause I couldn't decide what was the perfect list. Since something seemed off almost everytime anyway.

Super-Saiyan Goku (Namek) - 1

Future Time-Line:

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Future Gohan - 1.28
- after he lost his arm - 1.8

Trunks - 2

Future #17 - 5
- <50% - 1.6

Future #18 - 4.5

Freeza's Failed Attempt at Revenge:

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Goku - 2.25

Trunks - 2

Mecha-Freeza - 1.05

King-Cold - 0.6

3 years later:

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Goku - 4.275

Vegeta - 4.5

Trunks - 4

Piccolo - 3.125
- post-Kami (weighted) - 6.6
- post-Kami - 7.9

Android #19 - 2.2

Android #20 - 2.5

Android #18 - 6.75

Android #17 - 7.5

Android #16 - 20.5

Cell - 5.625
- post-Humans-absorptions - 22
- Semi-Perfect - 55

post-RoSaT:

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Semi-Perfect Cell - 68.75
- Initial - 55
- Perfect-Form (Initial) - 120
- Perfect-Form (Initial; powered-up) - 297.5 (or 300)

Vegeta - 52.5
- Super-Saiyan Grade-II - 131.25

Trunks - 49.5
- Super-Saiyan Grade-II - 123.75
- Super-Saiyan Grade-III - 371.25

Cell-Games:

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Gohan - 1,000
- Super-Saiyan 2 - 10,000

Goku - 660

Vegeta - 440

Trunks - 413.6

Cell - 2,500
- vs Goku - 742.5
- Power-Weighted - 4,000
- post-Zenkai - 9,200

Cell Jr. - 465.3

 

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Super-Saiyan Goku (Namek) - 1

Future Time-Line:

Future Gohan - 1.5
- before he lost his arm - 1.2

Future Trunks - 1.6

Future #17 - 3
- (<50%) - 1.35

Future #18 - 3


Freeza's Return:

Goku - 2

Trunks - 1.6

Mecha-Freeza - 1.05

King-Cold - 0.5


3 Years later:

Goku - 3

Vegeta - 3.2

Trunks - 2.7

Piccolo - 2.4
- post-Kami (weighted) - 4.2
- post-Kami - 4.8

Android #19 - 1.8

Android #20 - 2

Android #18 - 4

Android #17 - 4.5

Android #16 - 9

Cell - 3.6
- post Human absorptions - 9.6
- 2nd Form (Initial) - 18


Post-RoSaT:

2nd Form Cell - 24
- Initial - 18
- Perfect-Form (initial) - 28
-Perfect-Form (initial; powered-up)- 60

Vegeta - 20
- Super-Saiyan Grade-II - 30
- Super-Saiyan Grade-III (hypothetical) - 75

Trunks - 19
- Super-Saiyan Grade-II - 28.5
-Super-Saiyan Grade-III - 71.25


Cell-Games:

Gohan- 270
- Super-Saiyan 2 - 675

Cell - 60
- vs Goku - 200
-max- 450
- Power-Weighted - 600
- post-Zenkai - 630

Goku - 180

Vegeta - 99

Trunks - 99

Piccolo - 81

Cell Jr. - 100

 

[Jeff Styles]

Super-Saiyan Goku (Namek) - 1

Future Time-Line:

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Gohan - 1.5
- before he lost his arm - 1.2

Future Trunks - 1.7

Future #17 - 3
- (<50%) - 1.3

Future #18 - 2.7

Freeza's Return:

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Goku - 2

Trunks - 2

Mecha-Freeza - 1.05

King-Cold - 0.90

3 Years later:

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Goku - 2.6

Vegeta - 2.6

Trunks - 2.4

Piccolo - 2.1
- post-Kami (weighted) - 3.8
- post-Kami - 4.2

Android #19 - 1.5

Android #20 - 1.7

Android #18 - 3.8

Android #17 - 4.2

Android #16 - 9

Cell - 3.2
- post Human absorptions - 9
- 2nd Form (Initial) - 18

Post-RoSaT:

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2nd Form Cell - 27
- Initial - 18
- Perfect-Form (initial) - 30
-Perfect-Form (initial; powered-up) - 75

Vegeta - 0.35
- Super-Saiyan Grade-II - 35
- Super-Saiyan Grade-III (hypothetical) - 105

Trunks - 0.32
- Super-Saiyan Grade-II - 32
-Super-Saiyan Grade-III - 96

Cell-Games:

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Gohan
- Super-Saiyan 2 - 845

Cell - 420
- vs Goku - 210
- Power-Weighted - 525
- post-Zenkai - 840

Goku - 200

Vegeta - 140

Trunks - 135

Piccolo - 120

Cell Jr. - 150

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Post-RoSaT Super-Saiyan Vegeta and Trunks below Freeza Saga Goku?

 

[Jeff Styles]

Post-RoSaT Super-Saiyan Vegeta and Trunks below Freeza Saga Goku?

Base form. I was under the assumption it was about Base form because it didn't specify SSJ.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Post-RoSaT Super-Saiyan Vegeta and Trunks below Freeza Saga Goku?

Base form. I was under the assumption it was about Base form because it didn't include SSJ.

Nah, bro. I didn't include regular-states, because they're fairly irrelevant by the Cell Saga, so if I just write wir name it automatically means Super-Saiyan, if they're capable of it.