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Taken from Metal4ever in Neoseeker.

Note: These are slightly edited Google translations. As such, they probably aren't the most accurate they can be. They shouldn't be too far off the mark either, though.

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Chapter 3: Rewards of Training

Son Goku's victories were the result of steady and horrific training! Analyze Goku's growth based on data supervised by Akira Toriyama-sensei.

How to Read the Table

Points Forged in Each Training
Power | ★★★
Speed ​​| ★★
Stamina | ★★
Ki | ★★

The growth points of each training menu are classified into four categories: power, speed, stamina, and ki. We have quantified the effect of each menu!

Goku's Growth

[Diagram:]
Power
Speed
Stamina
Mind

Figures before training

Figures after training

The white part shows the value before training, and the black part shows the value after training! *The values represent Goku's normal state, not when he's in Super Saiyan.
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[pg. 56]

Training 6
Training in the Room of Spirit and Time


Overcome the Super Saiyan "Wall"!!
Get the most out of yourself and Gohan before the decisive battle with Cell, who aims to destroy the Earth like a game!!

Complete version | 26
EPISODE | Part 378-Part 390

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Training Data
Inventor: Son Goku
After a fierce battle on Namek, he grows a lot as a human! Entrust the future of the Earth to your son!!

From father to teacher!!

Purpose of Training

[pic of Goku in the RoSaT]
Goku: ”For now, we've gotta get you to become Super Saiyan. We'll start the full-scale training after that."
Train Gohan and defeat Cell!!
Believe in Gohan's talent and give special training in order to defeat Cell who has become complete.

Training Location
The Room of Spirit and Time

A mysterious room in the Palace of God. One day on Earth is a year here.

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Menu 1
Sparring between Super Saiyans!!
Goku considered that Gohan, who had a gentle heart, was unable to demonstrate his true strength in battle. So, they hit the severity of “serious” battle through the mutual sparring of Super Saiyans!

Stamina | ★★★★
Ki | ★ 5 ★ 5

Cultivate the sense of actual battle by pitting super power vs super power!!

Narrator: "...the existence of Son Goku..."

⬆Keep calm and read your opponent's movements without being swayed by anger!!

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Training +
Goku's Super Saiyan Awareness Course

Gohan's Super Saiyan is an absolute requirement to win against Cell. Goku teaches transformation methods based on his own experience!!

Teaching how to raise!

Show the image of anger!!

Suppress excitement and encourage awakening!!

The key to awakening is “anger”. Change your anger into pure fighting spirit and explode at once!

Keep your mind constant if a change occurs! Now you can move your body freely!!

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[pg. 57]

Menu 2
A Further Power-Up Through Meditation
Beyond the "wall" of the Super Saiyan = inner struggle with yourself! Imagine and embody the image of "strength" over many days.

Ki | ★★★

Solidify the image to surpass the "wall" of the Super Saiyan...

⬆Goku, who has overcome many difficulties, also finds it difficult to cross the "wall" ...

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Menu 3
Keeping the Super Saiyan State
Goku, who felt the limitations of changing his body, judged that ordinary Super Saiyan is the best. Spend a calm daily life in the Super Saiyan state and tune your fine mind.

Power | ★ 5 ★★★
Speed ​​| ★ 5 ★
Stamina | ★ 5 ★★
Ki | ★ 5 ★★★

Everyday life in Super Saiyan
Goku: "Look, there's a fish!"

Refreshing at a picnic is also performed in a Super Saiyan state.

Transform!!!

⬆In a transformation that is biased toward power, speed is killed. The balance between the two is important.

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Training Results
Growing Gohan to fulfill his duties as a teacher
As a teacher, he brought out Gohan's potential to the limit! Although Goku himself also significantly leveled up with a focus on ki, he still couldn't surpass Cell.

The awakened Gohan exploded the super power he created with Goku to the limit and saved the Earth!!

Gohan goes beyond the wall of the Super Saiyan

Defeat Cell!!!


[Diagram:]
Saiyan Limits
Power
Speed
Stamina
Mind
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[pg. 58]

Training 7
Training in Heaven

Aiming for Even Higher Heights!!
Training in Heaven without time? Even though Goku died, he continues to reach further heights!!

Full Version | 29
EPISODE | Part 429-Part 430

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Training Data
Inventor: Kaiō-sama
Goku gets killed in the battle with Cell. But his life hasn't changed much...
[pic of North Kaiō]
He's an amazing guy even if he's dead

Purpose of Training
[pic of Goku]
"Gohan and Vegeta will come out! I'll come out too!"
To participate in the Tenkaichi Budōkai
On the day [Goku] can return to the Living World for only one day, he will train for the Tenkaichi Budōkai.

Place of Training
[pic of Heaven]
Heaven
The world where the souls who have done good in their lives live. You go by plane from the pavilion.

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Menu 1
Add Weights and Shadowbox
Training with 2-ton weights on both hands and feet while using Bukūjutsu! The load on the body is greater than 100 times the gravity, but the effects are tremendous!

Power | ★ 5 ★★
Speed ​​| ★ 5 ★★★
Stamina | ★ 5 ★★
Ki | ★★★★

⬇To support the weights in the air, he needs the power of ki.
[pic of Goku struggling with 40 tons of weight]
Weight increased to 40 tons in total!!

[pic of Goku shadowboxing with 8 tons of weight]
Training everyday even if he dies!!

[pic of Super Saiyan Goku shadowboxing with 40 tons of weight]
"Easy, easy!"
Train your whole body!!

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[pg. 59]

Menu 2
Image Training with Meditation
There is a limit to physical training, so the only way to reach a higher level is to increase your ki power! Goku raised the maximum value of his ki while reminiscent of his training with God as a child, imagining a struggle!!

Ki | ★ 5 ★ 5

[pic of Goku meditating in Heaven]
Imagine the flow of battle!!
Train your mind and courage by fighting various enemies in your mind!!

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Training +
Goku's Fusion Course
Fusion that Goku learned from the Metamorian aliens he met in the Other World. A combination technique that can be performed when the power and physique are close, and if successful, a super warrior combined with the power of the two will be born.

[pic of Trunks and Goten beginning the Fusion Dance]
Two breaths are important!!
⬅Synchronize the feelings of the two who unite!

[pics of Goten and Trunks in the middle and end of the Fusion Dance]
The poses are embarrassing...?
⬅⬇If the poses are slightly off, the union will fail! Be passionate!!

[pic of Gotenks]
The ultimate warrior is born!!
⬅If successful, the body and spirit of the two will fuse and become a super warrior! However, the uniting time is only 30 minutes.

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Training Results
Thorough training without worrying about "time"! Transform into Super Saiyan 3!!
The concept of time doesn't exist in the Other World, so the result of accumulated training, compared to when living, is that everything is greatly built up! In particular, [Goku's] ki rose tremendously, and that power became the best in the universe!!

He fought on par against Majin Buu, the most evil enemy in history, and successfully protected the peace of the Earth and the universe!!

[pic of Super Saiyan 3 Goku]
He will somehow stop the happening of the resurrection of Buu!
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Training
Ex[tra]


Goku's Power-Ups Achieved Outside of Training
Training is not the only key to powering up! Introducing secret items that made Goku grow into the strongest warrior in the universe!

Part 1
Awakening into the legendary warrior Super Saiyan!!
Goku is awakened into a Super Saiyan on Namek, and in addition to the change in appearance, his battle power is dramatically increased! However, he is dominated by a heart of anger, and his reason does not work.

A Saiyan with a gentle heart wakes up with intense anger!

Battle power is 50 times normal!

Super Saiyan Son Goku


⬅When you become a Super Saiyan, your hair will stand up golden, and your character will be more aggressive.

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The Legend of the One Who Appears Every 1000 Years
It has been renowned as a phantom strong warrior born once every 1000 years on the planet Vegeta, the home of the Saiyans. Freeza fears this and destroys the planet Vegeta.

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Further Changes of Super Saiyan
Beyond the "inner wall", Super Saiyan can transform further! Goku climbed to the third form.

Super Saiyan 2
The appearance is the same as 1, but the aura emits sparks like flashes of lightning, and the hair stands up more finely.

It's 2 times as strong as Super Saiyan!

Super Saiyan 3
The hair grows, and the eyebrows disappear. The mind is calmer than 2, but the energy consumption is severe and the transformation time is limited.

It's 4 times as strong as Super Saiyan 2!
[pg. 43]

第3章 修業の章

孫悟空の勝利は、地道ですさまじい修業の成果だった!鳥山明先生監修のデータをもとに、悟空の成長を解析するぞ。

表の見方
各修業で鍛えられるポイント
パワー | ★★★
スピード | ★★
スタミナ | ★★
気 | ★★

各修業メニューの成長ポイントを「パワー」「スピード」「スタミナ」「気」の4つのカテゴリーに分類。それぞれのメニューで、どのくらいの効果があるのかを数値化したぞ!

悟空の成長

修業後の数値➡

⬅修業前の数値

白い部分は修業前、黒い部分が修業後の数値を示しているぞ!※超サイヤ人ではない、通常状態の悟空の数値だぞ。

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[pg. 56]

修業6
精神と時の部屋での修業

超サイヤ人の”壁”を乗り超える!!
ゲーム感覚で地球滅亡を狙うセルとの決戦を前に、自分と悟飯の力を最大限に引き出す!!

完全版 | 26
EPISODE | 其之三百七十八~其之三百九十

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修業データ
考案者 孫悟空
なメック星での激闘を経て、人間として大きく成長!地球の未来を息子に託す!!

父から師へ!!

修業の目的
「とりあえず超サイヤ人にならねえとな本格的な修業はそれからだ」

悟飯を鍛えてセルに勝つ!!
完全体となったセルを倒すため、悟飯の才能を信じて特訓をする。

修業の場所

精神と時の部屋
神の宮殿にある不思議な部屋。地球の1日は、ここでは1年になる。

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メニュー1
超サイヤ人同士で組み手!!
悟空は、穏やかな心を持つ悟飯が、闘いで本来の力を発揮できていないと考えた。 そこで“本気”のバトルのキビしさを、超サイヤ人同士の組み手を通して叩きこんだ!

スタミナ | ★★★★
気 | ★5★5

超パワーVS超パワーで実戦感覚を養う!!

「添悟空の存在を...」

⬆怒りにまどわされず、冷静に相手の動きを読む!!

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修業+

悟空の超サイヤ人覚醍講座

セルに勝つには、悟飯の超サイヤ人化が絶対条件。悟空は自分自身の経験をもとに、変身方法を伝授する!!

気の上げかたを伝授!

怒りのイメージをわかせる!!

興奮を抑えさせ覚醒をうながす!!

⬆覚醒のキーは”怒り”。怒りを純粋な闘志に変化させて、一気に爆発させていくのだ!

⬆変化が起きたら気を一定に!これで体を自由に動かせれば完成!!

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[pg. 57]

メニュー2
瞑想でさらなるパワーアップ
超サイヤ人の"壁"を超える=自分との内なる闘い!”強さ”のイメージを何日もかけて想像し、具現化していく。

気 | ★★★

超サイヤ人の”壁”を超えるためイメージを固め...

⬆多くの困難を克服してきた悟空も”壁”を超えるのは大変...。

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メニュー3
超サイヤ人状態を保ち続ける
肉体を変化させることに限界を感じた悟空は、通常の超サイヤ人が一番だと判断。超サイヤ人状態で穏やかな日常生活を過ごし、微細な気をチューンする。

パワー | ★5★★★
スピード | ★5★
スタミナ | ★5★★
気 | ★5★★★

日常生活もずっと超サイヤ人
「みろよ ほらでっけえ魚いるぞ!この湖」

⬆ピクニックのようなリフレッシュも超サイヤ人状態で行う。

変身!!!

⬆バワーに偏った変身では、スピードが殺される。2つのバランスが重要だ。

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トレーニング結果
悟飯を成長させて師匠としての務めを果たす
師匠として、悟飯の潜在能力を限界まで引き出した!悟空自身も気を中心に大幅なレベルアップを果たしたが、それでもセルは超えられなかった。

⬅覚醒した悟飯は、悟空と一緒に作り上げた超パワーを、限界まで爆発させて地球を救った!!

悟飯が超サイヤ人の”壁”を超え

セルを撃破!!!

[Diagram:]
サイヤ人の限界
パワー
スピード
スタミナ


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[pg. 58]

修業7
天国での修業
さらなる高みをめざす!!
時の流れのない天国で、のんびりトレーニング?死んでも悟空はさらなる高みを極め続ける!!

完全版 | 29
EPISODE | 其之四百二十九~其之四百三十

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修業データ
考案者 界王様
セルとの闘いで悟空に巻きこまれ死んでしまう。でも生活はあまり変わらず…。

[pic of North Kaiō]
死んでもやっぱりスゴイ人

修業の目的
[pic of Goku]
「悟飯もベジータも出るんだろ!!オラも出るさ!!」
天下一武道会出場のため
この世に1日だけ戻れる日を、天下一武道会開催にあわせ修業する。

修業の場所
[pic of Heaven]
天国
生前によい行いをした魂が住む世界。閣魔のもとから飛行機で行く。

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メニュー1
オモリをつけてシャドー
舞空術を使いながら、両手両足に2tのオモリをつけてトレーニング!100倍の重力以上に体に負荷がかかるが、その分効果は絶大だ!

パワー | ★5★★
スピード | ★5★★★
スタミナ | ★5★★
気 | ★★★★

:arrow_down:空中でオモリをささえるには気の力も必要だ。
[pic of Goku struggling with 40 tons of weight]
オモリを合計40tに増量!!

[pic of Goku shadowboxing with 8 tons of weight]
死んだって日々鍛錬!!

[pic of Super Saiyan Goku shadowboxing with 40 tons of weight]
「かんたんかんたんー!!」
全身をくまなく鍛える!!

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[pg. 59]

メニュー2
瞑想でイメージトレーニング
肉体的なトレーニングには限度があるので、さらなる高みをめざすには、気力を高めていくしかない!悟空は、子供の頃に行った神様との修業を思い出すように、闘いをイメージしながら、気の最大値を上げたのだ!!

気 | ★5★5

闘いの流れをイメージ!!
[pic of Goku meditating in Heaven]
↑想像の中でさまざまな敵と闘うことで、精神力や勇気を鍛えていくのだ!!

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修業+
悟空のフュージョン講座
悟空が、あの世で会ったメタモル星人に教わったというフュージョン。カや体格が近い場合にできる合体技で、成功すれば、2人の力をかけ合わせた超戦士が誕生する。

[pic of Trunks and Goten beginning the Fusion Dance]
:arrow_left:合体する2人の気持ちを同調させる!
2りの呼吸が大事!!

ポーズはしょっと恥ずかしい...?
[pics of Goten and Trunks in the middle and end of the Fusion Dance]
:arrow_left::arrow_down:ポーズがわずかでもズレたら合体は失敗する!情重に!!

究極の戦士が誕生!!
[pic of Gotenks]
:arrow_left:成功すれば2人の肉体と精神が融合し、超戦士に!ただし合体できる時間はわずか30分。

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トレーニング結果
"時間"を気にせずトコトン修業!超サイヤ人3へ変身!!
時間の概念がないあの世で、修業を積み重ねた結果、生前に比べて、全体が大きくビルドアップ!!特に気が凄まじく上昇し、その力は宇宙一となった!!

史上最凶の敵・魔人ブウとも互角に闘って、地球と宇宙の平和を見事に守り抜いた!!

[pic of Super Saiyan 3 Goku]
魔人ブウ復活のハプニングも何とか食い止める!!

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[pg. 62]

修業
Ex[tra]

修業以外で果たした悟空のパワーアップ
パワーアップの秘訣は修業だけじゃない!? 悟空を宇宙最強の戦士へと成長させた、秘密アイテムなどを紹介!

その1
伝説の戦士超サイヤ人への覚醒!!
ナメック星で超サイヤ人に覚醒した悟空は、見た目の変化に加え、戦闘力が格段に上昇!ただし怒りの心に支配され、理性が効かなくなる。

やかな心を持つサイヤ人が激しい怒りで目覚める!

戦闘力が通常の50倍に!

超サイヤ人孫悟空

⬅超サイヤ人になると髪が金色に逆立ち、性格も好戦的になる。

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1000年に1人の伝説
サイヤ人の故郷・惑星ベジータで、1000年に1人誕生する幻の強戦士として伝家されてきた。フリーザはこれを恐れ、惑星ベジータを破壊。

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超サイヤ人のさらなる変化
”内なる壁” を超えることで、超サイヤ人はさらに変身可能!悟空は第3形態まで登りつめた。

超サイヤ人2
外見は1と変わらないが、纏う気が稲妻のごとく火花を放ち、髪がさらに細かく逆立つ。

超サイヤ人の2倍の強さ!

超サイヤ人3
髪が伸び、眉毛が消失。2より心は穏やかだが、気の消費が激しく変身時間が限られる。

超サイヤ人2の4倍の強さ!

I may add the rest of the Training Section and clean this up later, but for now here's a few tidbits I found interesting:

* The increases in power, speed, stamina, and ki only apply to Goku's regular form. Base Saiyan gains confirmed!?
* The Full Power Super Saiyan state (MSSj) is seemingly described as existing beyond the "inner wall". This would imply Super Saiyan 2 and 3 surpass the "outer wall".
* Super Saiyan 3 has a calmer mind than 2.
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* The increases in power, speed, stamina, and ki only apply to Goku's regular form. Base Saiyan gains confirmed!?
Yup because Transformations are multipliers, they multiply what's there.

but as said in the Danzenshuu, it gives weight to the statement made by Beerus.
From the battle with Frieza to the end of Z there were still Base PowerLevel gains but without Transformations, Fusion, or Kaioken, it was not enough to achieve 120 million.



* The Full Power Super Saiyan state (MSSj) is seemingly described as existing beyond the "inner wall". This would imply Super Saiyan 2 and 3 surpass the "outer wall".

Because FullPowered SuperSaiyan is the unlocked Potential of the initial SuperSaiyan Transformation.
It's mastering or fully utilizing the form.

* Super Saiyan 3 has a calmer mind than 2.
I think SuperSaiyan3 is more of a forced form of FullPowered SuperSaiyan, or FullPowered SuperSaiyan Grade 2.

1. AscendedSaiyan (SS2) isn't required for SuperSaiyan3
2. It was never shown or stated that Gotenks had ever achieved AscenedSaiyan (SS2)
3. And FullPowered SuperSaiyan is clam.
Can't achieve AscenedSaiyan (SS2) through G1 as is it's fueled with anger, so clam it down & you get FullPowered SuperSaiyan.
And if AscendedSaiyan (SS2) is the initial resulting Transformation triggered by anger than how would SuperSaiyan3 be clamer when (SS2) hasn't been tamed yet.

So to me it makes sense that SuperSaiyan3 is clamer than AscendedSaiyan (SS2) & a possible Grade of FullPowered SuperSaiyan.
 

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Thorough training without worrying about "time"! Transform into Super Saiyan 3!!
The concept of time doesn't exist in the Other World, so the result of accumulated training, compared to when living, is that everything is greatly built up! In particular, [Goku's] ki rose tremendously, and that power became the best in the universe!!

He fought on par against Majin Buu, the most evil enemy in history, and successfully protected the peace of the Earth and the universe!!

:ha :ha
 

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Super Saiyan said:
Training Results
Thorough training without worrying about "time"! Transform into Super Saiyan 3!!
The concept of time doesn't exist in the Other World, so the result of accumulated training, compared to when living, is that everything is greatly built up! In particular, [Goku's] ki rose tremendously, and that power became the best in the universe!!

He fought on par against Majin Buu, the most evil enemy in history, and successfully protected the peace of the Earth and the universe!!

:ha :ha
Yes but that doesn't mean Base surpassed 60 or 120Million.
 

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Super Saiyan said:
Training Results
Thorough training without worrying about "time"! Transform into Super Saiyan 3!!
The concept of time doesn't exist in the Other World, so the result of accumulated training, compared to when living, is that everything is greatly built up! In particular, [Goku's] ki rose tremendously, and that power became the best in the universe!!

He fought on par against Majin Buu, the most evil enemy in history, and successfully protected the peace of the Earth and the universe!!

:ha :ha

I mean, he was for a while
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Super Saiyan said:
Training Results
Thorough training without worrying about "time"! Transform into Super Saiyan 3!!
The concept of time doesn't exist in the Other World, so the result of accumulated training, compared to when living, is that everything is greatly built up! In particular, [Goku's] ki rose tremendously, and that power became the best in the universe!!

He fought on par against Majin Buu, the most evil enemy in history, and successfully protected the peace of the Earth and the universe!!

:ha :ha

I mean, he was for a while

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VampireWicked said:
* The increases in power, speed, stamina, and ki only apply to Goku's regular form. Base Saiyan gains confirmed!?
Yup because Transformations are multipliers, they multiply what's there.

but as said in the Danzenshuu, it gives weight to the statement made by Beerus.
From the battle with Frieza to the end of Z there were still Base PowerLevel gains but without Transformations, Fusion, or Kaioken, it was not enough to achieve 120 million.



* The Full Power Super Saiyan state (MSSj) is seemingly described as existing beyond the "inner wall". This would imply Super Saiyan 2 and 3 surpass the "outer wall".

Because FullPowered SuperSaiyan is the unlocked Potential of the initial SuperSaiyan Transformation.
It's mastering or fully utilizing the form.

* Super Saiyan 3 has a calmer mind than 2.
I think SuperSaiyan3 is more of a forced form of FullPowered SuperSaiyan, or FullPowered SuperSaiyan Grade 2.

1. AscendedSaiyan (SS2) isn't required for SuperSaiyan3
2. It was never shown or stated that Gotenks had ever achieved AscenedSaiyan (SS2)
3. And FullPowered SuperSaiyan is clam.
Can't achieve AscenedSaiyan (SS2) through G1 as is it's fueled with anger, so clam it down & you get FullPowered SuperSaiyan.
And if AscendedSaiyan (SS2) is the initial resulting Transformation triggered by anger than how would SuperSaiyan3 be clamer when (SS2) hasn't been tamed yet.

So to me it makes sense that SuperSaiyan3 is clamer than AscendedSaiyan (SS2) & a possible Grade of FullPowered SuperSaiyan.


Okay this is an interesting topic so lets get some sparks going lol.
This Outer Wall not counting Universe6 has there ever been anything suggesting there's another way of achieing a normal Transformation without anger being the trigger.
 

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so is there a way to know which trainings led to bigger changes than the previous trainings
 
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