Shin Pocket Monster

[Papasmurf]

I think X/Y had better battles on average (until the league which was garbage), but the D/P league was probably my favorite of the leagues as well. I didn't even watch the Hoenn league lmfao

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Hoenn from what I remember and see around seems to be generally regarded as average. Not bad but not that good either.

I didn't really like the XY(Z) characters so I didn't care enough. DP's cast was gr9 though. Like you said Paul for example & Dawn also had a goal that seemed to actually progress. Ash was kind-of a mentor role but more mature than in Hoenn or was it?

 

[Papasmurf]

I didn't like Paul, he just seemed like an edgy ass bitch ripoff of Silver from the GSC games but I gotta admit his final battle with Ash in the Sinnoh League was gr8 by the anime's standards. Much better than Ash vs. Gary in the Johto league imo.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

He was a good parallel/counter-part to Ash. Actually kind-of weird how Paul was considering there's not a-lot of cruel stuff in the Pokémon anime but Paul was. I guess they still taught children a good lesson by Ash ultimately defeating Paul. 2 2 2

 

[Papasmurf]

Too bad Ash couldn't win where it really counted, in the Kalos league finals.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

To be honest another thing I didn't like about XY(Z) was this weird bond between Ash and Greninja, was it? It felt cheesy and out-of-place. They truly amped-up the shōnen aspect of the show.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

They probably did it because of Greninja's popularity, having been voted #1 in a Japanese popularity poll for all Pokemon at the time and having been such a favourite that it got into Smash before it was even in the X/Y games.

In-universe, however, it's lol worthy that Pikachu, Charizard or Infernape don't get any sort of unique bond with Ash, yet a Pokemon that's been with Ash far less time and had far less stand-out battles is somehow the one for him.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I know you already said Charizard, but especially Charizard. Maybe even more than Pikachu.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I just heard this but apparently Ash won the league. Finally.

 

[Papasmurf]

I guess the world's ending tomorrow then. Makes it all the more likely the Sun & Moon anime will be ending and we'll see a new anime instead of both shows running concurrently

 

[Fantastische Hure]

dogasu.bulbagarden.net/features/translations/corocoro_online_matsumoto.html

 

[Captain Cadaver]

The producers of the anime said that the anime would end when Ash became a Champion, so that does seem to be the case now.
Too bad he won it in such a vanilla instalment to the anime as Sun and Moon rather than the Sinnoh or (especially) Kalos Leagues that would've made far better payoffs.

I heard the Alola League was such a joke that even James made top 8 and Lillie somehow made top 16 with just an Alolan Vulpix.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

 

[Papasmurf]

Ash didn't even have a full 6 member team this time around

Also, apparently in the Alola league beating the 4 Island Kahunas wasn't even a requirement, hence the influx of no name fodders in this shitty ass league

Figures that the one time the anime writers actually let him win a regional league from the games, it's of even less importance than the Kanto and Unova leagues lmfao

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Funny how the proto-Alola League that was the Orange League that also acted as a way of Ash becoming Champion was able to produce far more of a sense of skill involved and a high-scale for those part of the league such as Luana showcasing the first non-Team Rocket double battle iirc and Drake having a generally well rounded, strong team, despite the fact that the Orange League was meant as glorified filler until Johto and Alola was a main series game adaption.

 

[Keedounan]

Let's be honest. Pikachu alone should have been able to solo most of the arena champions with the experience he's acquired so far.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

He'd do that only to lose to a Level 5 Grookey in Sword and Shield straight after

 

[Papasmurf]

Level 5 Snivy > Latios ~ Elekid > Regice

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Also I saw it a few days ago but Ash isn't going anywhere l0l. There'll be another protagonist tagging alongside him this time, so now you are stuck with 2 Ashs.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

& the art-style's got arguably even worse.